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MarJay
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siggi wrote:
"can I fuck your wife?"


He did ask politely... and it was meant as a compliment! Wink

Remember this is Robby, and he would have been just as happy to insult religious icons as he would ask if he can fornicate with someone elses partner! Smile
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matty B, the members on here who chant racist crap don’t even make any valid points most of the time, so grow up an ignore them, the harsh views on religion I feel are some what different.
My sister is now, ‘Muslim’ well sort of, she doesn’t eat pork anyway so I guess that makes her one, her husband is Muslim, he is from Morocco, I have listened to quite a lot from him, albeit nothing new really, he has shown me some of his old school views on women which goes hand in hand with most of his other views.
A load of old shite…..
My sister is one of my best friends, she loves this man dearly and obviously they have spent a lot of time together exchanging thoughts, she has told me some of what he says and basically a general over view of how the Muslims see ‘us’.
He has adapted well now that he has married my sister, he no longer thinks my sister should only cook and clean but go to work as well, bless him.
We all talk of generalisation on here as we talk about Muslims etc, what they think of us as a whole would make you think for a minute, make you think they are a little behind the times
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

'behind the times' is different from 'savages' or 'dirty pigs' or 'bastards'.

And, do you think your sisters husband should be targetted as a suspect for terrorism? seems to be the way over here in australia.

apparently all muslims should be suspects, according to 70% of the viewers of commercial TV.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall muslims getting this pissed off and indignant when their kind were sawing the heads off western men and women with kitchen knives in the name of their religion...
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall muslims getting this pissed off and indignant when their kind were sawing the heads off western men and women with kitchen knives in the name of their religion...


that was then, and now is now.

if you dislike muslims because they used to decapitate people back in the day.

then, me and my entire country should be hated to, seeing as we were playing golf with native australians heads while they were buried in the sand upto their neck, and cutting their heads off, and raping their wives.

it wasn't me that did it. :\


even though we didn't do it because of religion, we did it because we were idiots who wanted the land.

the same applys here. you're racist against all muslims, because of some of their history, or because of some terrorists.

blah, whatever the reason. i still think it's extremly ignorant and narrow minded to say such filth about a religion in general.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Major_Grooves wrote:
They were in the streets shouting "Death to Denmark! War to Denmark!" How can people claim to be civilised when their people say that sort of thing? It makes me think that Siggi's "Arabs are all sub-human" comments are not so far from the truth....


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What don't they kick off about tbh.


Zak said it best.

zaknafien wrote:
Savages.


There is no room in the 21st century for this type of dogmatic single minded savagery.
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattyB wrote:


you're racist against all muslims,



Racism is discriminating against someone because of their colour.

Bigotry is discriminating against someone because of thier religious background.
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR125-Kid-UK wrote:
There is no room in the 21st century for this type of dogmatic single minded savagery.


There's nothing like a bit of stereotyping and tarring everyone with the same brush is there? Obviously all muslims must be raving loonies who run around shouting 'Death to the West!', blowing themselves up and slicing babies heads off with bread knives... Rolling Eyes

You'd think that homosexuals would be more tolerant of other minority groups really, given what they have been through themselves.

It is always a minority who are spoiling it for everyone else; most muslims I have ever encountered have been perfectly courteous, reasonable and friendly, who just want to get on with their lives without people interfering. A select few have been arseholes, but then there are always those in any group.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattyB wrote:
'behind the times' is different from 'savages' or 'dirty pigs' or 'bastards'.

And, do you think your sisters husband should be targeted as a suspect for terrorism? seems to be the way over here in Australia.

apparently all muslims should be suspects, according to 70% of the viewers of commercial TV.


He has worn a bomb belt before in protest of something, but as he has lived and breathed western culture now for over 15 years he would never think of doing that sort of thing again, although, his roots are deep, he still keeps some views that aren’t really worth talking about.
I heard of the problems over in OZ involving Muslims, I feel that over here we have integrated with many cultures without too much hassle, for some reason Muslims seem to affect our daily business.
Yes there are dick eds in all groups of people, but it takes a certain type of group to spark off so much religious spaz.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
NSR125-Kid-UK wrote:
There is no room in the 21st century for this type of dogmatic single minded savagery.


There's nothing like a bit of stereotyping and tarring everyone with the same brush is there? Obviously all muslims must be raving loonies who run around shouting 'Death to the West!', blowing themselves up and slicing babies heads off with bread knives... Rolling Eyes

You'd think that homosexuals would be more tolerant of other minority groups really, given what they have been through themselves.

It is always a minority who are spoiling it for everyone else; most muslims I have ever encountered have been perfectly courteous, reasonable and friendly, who just want to get on with their lives without people interfering. A select few have been arseholes, but then there are always those in any group.


well said, top bloke Very Happy


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Racism is discriminating against someone because of their colour.

Bigotry is discriminating against someone because of thier religious background.


suprise suprise, i've been told that before Rolling Eyes my bad.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattyB wrote:
[that was then, and now is now.

if you dislike muslims because they used to decapitate people back in the day.


A few months ago. Not "back in the day".

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the same applys here. you're racist against all muslims, because of some of their history, or because of some terrorists.

blah, whatever the reason. i still think it's extremly ignorant and narrow minded to say such filth about a religion in general.


Point one. Islam is not a race.

Point two. My observation about misplaced priorities is neither ignorant nor narrow-minded. Unlike your response.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The distinction between those Muslims that pursue violence as a means of making a difference and those Muslims that simply go through life without bother is palpable. There are those that take their holy book (irrespective of religion) absoloutely seriously, as gospel truth and those that take a vague, laid back view of it, a guide to how you should live your life for example. I believe this is the current state of Western culture, the bible is in the background and can be followed or not followed. It should be noted however, that in America it is coming to the forefront again, with the idea of intelligent design being thoroughly examined as an alternative to Darwin's evolution theory... And the recent change in that it is now difficult to get a job as a scientist out there if you are not a christian.

I would like to live in a semi stable world, but that shit won't happen whilst there are country invading, self combusting, flag burning pricks around.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
You'd think that homosexuals would be more tolerant of other minority groups really, given what they have been through themselves.

It is always a minority who are spoiling it for everyone else; most muslims I have ever encountered have been perfectly courteous, reasonable and friendly.


I am not *A* homosexual, I am *A* person. Just the same as every islamic person that walks about, I am an individual.
My opinions and beliefs are my own, but it seems that for a great part, theirs are not theirs.

Most I have encountered are disinterested and unpleasant. But there are a fair few honest and pleasant people out there Smile.

Every person is a member of some minority or other. You can't go through life without being in one.

But I do not back down on my belief that religion, including, especially THAT religion is one of the most dangerous and powerful forces for destruction and unrest on the planet.
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
MattyB wrote:
'behind the times' is different from 'savages' or 'dirty pigs' or 'bastards'.

And, do you think your sisters husband should be targeted as a suspect for terrorism? seems to be the way over here in Australia.

apparently all muslims should be suspects, according to 70% of the viewers of commercial TV.


He has worn a bomb belt before in protest of something, but as he has lived and breathed western culture now for over 15 years he would never think of doing that sort of thing again, although, his roots are deep, he still keeps some views that aren’t really worth talking about.
I heard of the problems over in OZ involving Muslims, I feel that over here we have integrated with many cultures without too much hassle, for some reason Muslims seem to affect our daily business.
Yes there are dick eds in all groups of people, but it takes a certain type of group to spark off so much religious spaz.


hear of the cronulla beach riots over here? hundreds and hundreds of redneck aussies heard of 'lebo's' bashing a life guard, so naturally, being rednecks, they all ran around torching cars, bashing any non-aussie they could find, and getting in brawls with police.

it's 2 sided, the 'lebos' retaliated.

but my point is, there are wankers in every society, religion, race, etc.

Bazza: your avatar suits you perfectly.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
NSR125-Kid-UK wrote:
There is no room in the 21st century for this type of dogmatic single minded savagery.


There's nothing like a bit of stereotyping and tarring everyone with the same brush is there? Obviously all muslims must be raving loonies who run around shouting 'Death to the West!', blowing themselves up and slicing babies heads off with bread knives... Rolling Eyes

You'd think that homosexuals would be more tolerant of other minority groups really, given what they have been through themselves.

It is always a minority who are spoiling it for everyone else; most muslims I have ever encountered have been perfectly courteous, reasonable and friendly, who just want to get on with their lives without people interfering. A select few have been arseholes, but then there are always those in any group.


I agree with everything you have said mchaggis most muslims do lead normal lives like catholics prodestants and jews (have i left anyone out?)

The minority you mention would obviously be happier living in the middleast and they are part of the problem here in the uk.

What i mean is no-one really wants to offfend any cultures or religions granted sometimes this does happen but it is up to us the majority to stop this and we don't need people who seem like religious fundamentalists to cry 'mama' everytime something does offend them.

We don't need there help in the uk, the british people have made this place a country were anyone from around the world can live, work and have equal rights. And the british people will continue to do so.

If we need help from religous fanatics we'll ask Wink
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking a bit about this, you could relate these cartoons to those that the Nazi's brought out of the Jews, portraying them as having big noses and being completely untrustworthy, taking Germany's jobs, and all that. they were propaganda cartoons designed to promote hatred towards Jews, and this was just making a satirical point. But I can see why Muslims are reacting such.
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattyB wrote:
hear of the cronulla beach riots over here? hundreds and hundreds of redneck aussies heard of 'lebo's' bashing a life guard, so naturally, being rednecks, they all ran around torching cars, bashing any non-aussie they could find, and getting in brawls with police.


I heard something about that. So did some french muslims, so naturally, being muslims,they all ran around torching cars, bashing any non-muslim they could find, and getting in brawls with police.

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but my point is, there are wankers in every society, religion, race, etc.


Fair go mate, but you strines are at the top of the bell-curve there.

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Bazza: your avatar suits you perfectly.


I was thinking the same about yours. Empty,.. vacant... blank...
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siggi wrote:

It could have been a compliment, a joke, intended to offend, whatever. My point was that I didn't give a hoot either way, and nor should religious jerk-offs give a hoot when somebody insults their god. Getting upset about it does nothing other than indicate you're a sad tosser desperately in need of a life, a backbone, some self respect and half a fucking clue about the true nature of reality.


Siggi. I agree with you!

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PostPosted: 18:30 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then surely it isn't freedom of expression at all? Who decides what counts as an idignity? Why does their opinion carry more weight than mine in deciding what I can say?


I find it strange that people here are almost saying any insult is allowed, as long as it's ment in good humour. Perhaps people should have a bit of respect for each other as well as being able to take a joke.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone got a copy of the cartoons so I can see what this is all about?
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

RickHolt wrote:
Has anyone got a copy of the cartoons so I can see what this is all about?


Before someone goes posting them all over here, I have added this link to see them, so the forum does not get any grief

scroll down for all 12 forbidden cartoons,
https://michellemalkin.com/archives/004413.htm
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just saw on the news of the group of muslims protesting outside the Danish embassy with placards saying things like "down with freedom of speech",,, is it just me or does anyone else find this slightly ironic, Muppets

i dont have time for any of this religion crap that has gathered up momentum over the past few years (that i have noticed) they seem to complain about everything they can, not so long ago in Glasgow a lady was "told" to move her little food van because it upset the muslims from the mosque across the road, this angered me and if anything made me resent muslims more, maybe its the difference between cultures thats clashing , i mean we "British" people don’t go throwing the toys out the pram every time sum one does something we don’t like but because of this whole PC state that seems to have taken control we are forced to take notices of minorities an be forced to do something about it because its politically correct to do so. ..which in turn rubs people up the wrong way, having it forced down ther throat every single day by the media or workplace which then leads to the society’s views and impression influencing the twisted shit stirring media, and we have problems like this whole cartoon fiasco,

to many people to blame it makes my head hurt but ultimately it ends up in a big fat finger pointing to muslims an religion in general.

to be honest i don’t think these cartoons deeply offended any muslim, but the whole far east/western divide is so touchy at the moment they will kick of about anything they think will get them attention.

dono if any of that made sense but meh "it don't mean a thing" ..
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see where they are coming from because if they were racist cartoons i'm sure a lot of people would have different views on weather they are acceptable or not. I do however think they went about it all in totally the wrong way and instead of getting any symapthy on the issue they are getting ridiculed.

The problem i believe thay have with it is not just the fact it could stir up hatred but also the fact that you are not meant to create any for of image of Mohammed and that is a deep rooted thing in their religion. Maybe if they hadn't of reacted so violently and in an over the top matter people would of taken their side on the issue instead of backing the danish press for what could really be seen as inciting hatred against their religion.
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the London Protest today

https://www.ufo-planet.net/misc/muslim1.jpg

https://www.ufo-planet.net/misc/muslim2.jpg

https://www.ufo-planet.net/misc/muslim3.jpg

https://www.ufo-planet.net/misc/muslim4.jpg

https://www.ufo-planet.net/misc/muslim5.jpg

https://www.ufo-planet.net/misc/muslim6.jpg

This is the worst, gone too far?
https://www.ufo-planet.net/misc/muslim7.jpg

https://www.ufo-planet.net/misc/muslim8.jpg

This post is not anti Muslim just showing new pics.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i feel a caption comp coming on Laughing
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