Dismay at BCF

Kris · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

It comes to something when I am shocked at what I see here on BCF. The posts currently in General Chat regarding the protests about the cartoons published, really sadden me. Not just that, actually they anger me too if I'm honest.

Calls for Arab goods to be banned, angry posts calling Muslims dirty, dishonest etc etc. Seriously, what sort of fucking morons have taken over this place recently? please, sort yourselves out and stop reading the Sun/Daily Mail etc.

If you'd actually seen the news (and not just the main channels coverage or tabloids) then you will also have seen Muslim leaders condeming these idiots who are protesting. Infact Muslim leaders were at these protests arguing with the few that are going mental.
You cannot judge every Muslim by the actions of a very small minority, particularly a minority that are condemned by their own.

Please, wake up and smell the coffee. The US, UK etc are currently arguing with (and destroying) countries in the Middle East. You must have noticed what a coincedence it is that these recent events have occured when public opinion of invasions has plummeted.

Now how about we have some tolerance, show some brains for a change and all grow the fuck up.

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greatmoorred · Nearly there... Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Karma :

sorry dad. Embarassed

killa · Won't Shut Up Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Karma :

Some people are coming up with debatable posts, other just resort to insults, BCF believes in freedom of speech and that’s how it goes.
Kris, feel free to name and shame the few members who you are talking about so I don’t think you’re generalising about the whole forum.

colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

i think kris has a point to some extent.
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daz|n00by · The Internet Joined: 11 May 2004 Karma :

Yes you make a valid point up to a part.

Dom · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Karma :

Good post Kris. Thumbs Up

I really hope that the silent majority do feel similarly as it is plain depressing reading a lot of these recent posts.

As far as I'm concerned the reactionary, intolerant remarks here are very much in line with the extreme behaviour of those who are on the other side of the fence. These cartoons clearly go very much against the grain for muslims, but whatever the media may try to convey, it is only a minority of them taking an 'extremist' approach to the situation.
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cqueen · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Karma :

FFS there are 11 (YES ELEVEN) threads on this page about muslims/arabs/cartoons/what not.

Im not saying the content is crap, just please no more of them! use the ones already ongoing.

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Fortuna · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Karma :

Some learned people can remember the root causes of the war in Kosovo. If Britain doesn't look out for itself we will go the same way.

riichy · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Karma :

am with siggi..anything for cheap oil Razz

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phantomtek · Lil Joe Tek Joined: 20 May 2005 Karma :

I would rather read a good debate than shit like:

OMG my bird is cheeting on me but I won't dump her cus I luv her oh noes!!

Or

I have a green cock and a teenage slutbag bint. Feel sorry for me.

Only my Penny Coin

though.

Spiral · Traffic Copper Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Karma :

Lets face it kris if this was a random protest or maybe even one embassy attack you could have claimed it was a small minority but this is well past this point.

What we are seeing is that islam around the world has more than a minority involved with extremists views more likely i would say that nearly half of all muslims are leaning towards the extremists.

If you want to talk about minority you will see its the minority who are actually speaking out againist the protests as it is now they have the majority of support of muslims around the world.

As you said 'wake up and smell the coffee' well i think the british public are.
They are seeing how the so called muslim leaders who you say are against the protests are really the problem.

They as religious leaders are unable to separate religion from politics, they are obsessed with religion, politics, war( terrorism).

There are ordinary muslims who go to work pray and so on, but its a pity their leaders are religious nutcases and their press is bigotry/anti-west and obsessed with the purity of muslims and segregation from western culture (even though they live in the west)
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xlizx · Scooby Slapper Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Karma :

As much as generalising against all Muslims in general is a bad ting, I feel that the way a number of them who are calling for the execution of people poking fun at their religion is heavy handed to say the least. As a predominently Christian country (as Siggi said) we are a lot more tolerant towards their rleigion and lifestyle than they would ever be towards ours. I've been to Arab countries and been forced to cover up even though it's been absolutely roatsing out of respect for their religion, and what do we do here? Pass legislations allowing them to wear turbans and head scarves because it makes them happy. Fair enough, we're lenient, but it's not as though we get the same treatment when we're daytripping in the Middle East, is it?
We don't like extremist Muslims kidnapping people because all told, Allah condemns the war we're fighting (but thats a whole different story!) and that's quite frankly upsetting. We'd be quite in our rights to kick off about it and protest, in fact. But being the type of people we are, we approach the government and try to settle things diplomatically. Half these people don't want to do it the 'right' way, or the 'peaceful' way, they have a view and they want is enforced whatever the cost.

Tarmacsurfer · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Karma :

The amusing aspect is the supposedly anti-religious posters seem to be far more extreme and rabidly frothing (fundamentalist almost...) than almost anyone else I've met Laughing

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The View Askew · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Karma :

Bollocks

I agree. don't ask who with though. and try not to give me a redundant rating. Middle Finger

oh the glee. ahh
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killa · Won't Shut Up Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Karma :

TBH I find the cartoons pretty tame, badly drawn, haven’t these people seen anything on the net??
Wicked…. Wink

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Irezumi aka Reuben · Carrot Top Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Karma :

Surely all the same apply's to the people posting as well?

How many members of BCF are actually posting on these subjects, compared to the amount of members there are?

EDIT: Alternatively it could be that these people are representative of the majority of British people. What then?
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Spiral · Traffic Copper Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Karma :

I wish people would stop beating around the bush and come clean if you want to have a pop at someone or you disagree with someone then say so.

Stop using words like BCF members or these people.

Name names or say nothing Exclamation

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Flip · Super Spammer Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Karma :

The UK is a very racist country. And people are allowed to post their views. Thumbs Up

Just a thought.

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Misc · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Karma :

How does all this effect you as a person, because i see all this on the news & don't really pay attention to it all, they don't effect me. If they keep coming into our country then let the government sort that out, unless they actually did somthing that effected me then i might pay attention. I just get on with my life. But i would like to know how it effects others.

Rookie · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Karma :

What's interesting is that the guy who famously wore a suicide bombers' outfit yesterday or whenever, apologised publicly today. In his statement he said he wasn't condoning terrorist attacks and thought the July 7th attacks were a travesty, and that he was simply practising free speech.

He has an interesting point, doesn't he? Tit for tat, the Danish papers practised free speech; so did he. Who are we to silence them after these cartoons? They went mental over them and we say 'shut the hell up, they're only cartoons'. But when they stick up banners saying 'death to Europe' etc, we have a similar reaction. Granted, the tone is slightly different, but it would be interesting to hear the voices behind those banners. If they were similar to that of the suicide bomber costumed guy, it would put a slightly less oppressive spin on everything.

NBO · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Karma :

Dismay at BCF ?

Not me, I think it's quiet refreshing to see people speak as they feel and not feel that they have to hold back just incase they upset someone.

What does grate me somewhat is some saying, I dont give a fuck, it doesnt bother me or affect me so who cares, It's tossers like such that virtually give every other,,..,, possibly unwelcome minority a free pass in, it may not have a direct affect on you now but you wait and watch.