Smoking ban - your thoughts?

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This is going through parliament today.
So just curious to know how you would vote for the smoking ban.

The arguement for exempting private member clubs is that if owner/run by the members then they are a extension of the home.

Any other reasons welcome.
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[Steve H]

Probably not a popular opinion but I'd ban the lot I'm afraid.

I smoke cigars every now and again and I used to smoke cigarettes. The rights of a non smoker to leave a pub or a club after a night out without the sickly stench on their clothes and body plus the passive inhalation that they endure far outweigh the rights of the smoker to spark up in my opinion.

Want a piss? Go to the bogs.

Want a tab? Go to a designated 'smoking room' or outside.

Simple.
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[Sadie]

I'm not a smoker and I hate the smell.

However, I resent the constant intrusion of the nanny state into our lives, and therefore want no ban at all.

However, I haven't voted because "I can't be bothered" is not an accurate description of why I don't want a ban.
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[innominate]

Businesses will not give us the option to have clean air, it alienates some of their customers.

So the state has to force them, simple as.


If it was just smelly then I would'nt care, but there are fairly concrete health problems associated with 2nd hand smoke, so I think its right to ban it.


Can still go outside to smoke though.
So its not as if you are compeltely barred from bifters.
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[Skunkcap Freddie]

i don't smoke myself, and normally i don't mind aslong as its not right in my face but recently its been gettin on my nerve's , the smoke burning my nose up close.

what i hate is when your walking down the street and someone infront is puffing away and you can't get a fresh breath of air. that really annoys me.

also . when the idiots chuck there cigarette butts out the windows when i'm behind on the bike, visor up or down. if i get the chance to tell someone off i will

[numark1]

I think it should be banned from pubs and clubs. Nothing worse than going out for the night get in, wake up in the morning to find you entire room stinks of stale fags, also gets on your clothes.

[daz|n00by]

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[Robby]

I'd like to be able to go to a pub and not smell smoke, simple as.

I don't care about smoker's rights, its a damaging habit you choose to take up, so you can deal with the consequences, just like getting obese or having kids. I don't see you deserving any special treatment because you choose to do something antisocial.

[bazza]

Stop fecking about. Just make tobacco illegal and have done with it, FFS. Sure, your taxes will go through the roof, VAT will be 25-30%, the anti-smoking lobby will turn towards persecuting new "dangerous" activities - "ooh, those nasty bikers look like they need banning." and all the while middle-class do-gooders ride round in ever-bigger 4x4s destroying the planet at the same time as tutting everyone else to death.

So go ahead and ban smoking, but if I'm going to be criminalised for it, then I might as well make the criminalisation worthwhile. Let's face it, if you're going to be a bear, you might as well be a grizzly.

OMG. I'm turning into Siggi...
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[Skunkcap Freddie]

[Visitor Q]

I think its a good idea, as a ban WILL help people quit. I quit a while ago, and im absolutely fine when sober and around smokers, or just drunk at my gaff with mates. Its im out in pubs/clubs sorrounded by fags, thats abit hard to resist.

Plus this should (like well see a tax cut pff) lower the strain on the nhs, as less secondhand smoke means less illnesses, with still in theory the same amount of smokers chucking tax at the govt.
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[daz|n00by]

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I don't smoke, well definitely not in pubs in the UK anyway .

However, if the people really cared, I would hve thought there would be market for non-smoking pubs as it is.
Seems there isn't.

[Visitor Q]

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[HerbalDayZ]

Its complete bollox an wish the people who trying to ban it completly would fuck right off.

Ego power trip maybe (we as a non smoker can stop them smoking)Feel you dont have any say or right.So by punishing smokers you feel you have taken controll LoL.

I have smoked an i have stopped for many months then started up,I found my sanity was better off by smoking.How far will some people go.We have camera in the street vans with cameras that drive around we have secruity devices tags etc.Its as if we are rats in one huge cage being watched poked an told what to do..

If they want thousands of pounds a year from tax from me why cant i have the choice to do as i please (aslong as not badly brakeing the law).

if i want to smoke a fag i pay for them i also pay ALOT of tax on them whats tax on fags about 3 pound ? 3x7=21 per week x 52 just over 1k a year smoke for 15 years =15 thousand

Does this not pay for any medical needs ? surely if i catch cancer 15 grand should cover treatment .
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[akaDAVE]

I gave up smoking well over a year ago now but my mates all still smoke when we go to the pub.
I would be quite pleased if it was banned but I can't help feel that it's a bit selfish.
Pubs are traditionally places where people go to drink, smoke and swear. They aren't places for kids.
I went to the pub on sunday and there was a couple sitting at a table in the corner smoking, with thier young baby in a push chair next to them. I found that quite shocking as I thought people would know better these days. They should ban kids from the pubs that want to allow smoking and leave others to do what they want.
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[greatmoorred]

I think that breweries and publicans have had several years to get their act together and sort out proper ventilation in pubs, but they dont want to spend any money so they are going to be taught a lesson.
I stopped going into my local a couple of months ago, when i got sick of the haze of smoke hanging 5ft off the floor. You could see it as you walked through the door. When i asked the barman if he could put the fans on for a bit he said " no, its cold with the fans on "!!
Ill go back in spring.

[HerbalDayZ]

Oh 1 more rant..

Who can honestly answer this question ?

Which makes the pubs more money !!!

Non smokers who imo dont spend much time in pubs .

Smokers who prob spend half there life in them.

so end of the day which loses more money.The smoker paying for his fags with 3 pound tax every time.Then his prices of drinks which have tax an he probs drinks more.

The non smoker who pays nothing on tax for ciggies prob drinks less.

imo smokers contribute a hell of alot more then non smokers.You ever think about that you want to ban it but you dont even pay the taxes we do.Surely we should get to tell you what to do as we as people are paying more into the country then yourselfs ?

As everyone allways moans about clouds of smoke an all the smokers.I think it answers itself that there are more smokers in pubs then non smokers
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[innominate]

All you have to do is get of your fat arse and move outside for a fag, instead of knackering the air inside the pub.




OH THE INJUSTICE!!!!!!!!



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[Mr.Everready]

Scotlands total ban starts on the 26th of March
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