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Ritzah
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Remote Engine Start Reply with quote

Does anyone know where i can get a remote engine start, without an alarm. I've searched all across the net and ebay, and all the remote starts have alarms fitted with them, i dont want an alarm, only the remote starter.

anyone know where i can get one from?
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

er... why do ya want/need one?
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you a member of the Russian Mafia, or perhaps and arab oil shiek?

Otherwise, why in gods name would you want to buy something that will allow your bike/car to be started while you are not anywhere near it, thus allowing easy ample stealing opportunities for theifs?

Thinking Eh?
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err why don't you want the alarm with it? You are removing the most basic security method protecting your bike you should replace it with something.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres so many reasons not to...

You might get one without an allarm, but it will cost as much probably...

Alarm remotes emit a radio signal unique to that alarm, so for that your going to be spending allot of money in any case..
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i could not see any benefit to it, i think all you would impress with a remote start is your mother Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont Get One.

There is No reason to at all, and it can be fucking dangerous.

Imagine this for instance:

You park up in town, your in a rush to be somewhere so you leave the disclock off and walk away from your bike. Put the keys in your pocket and go to where your supposed to be.

On the way back you enter the range for your remote, the key fob is being compressed in your pocket and the button is depressed. Your bike is left in gear, it jolts forward trying to start, boom. Your bikes on the floor.

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PostPosted: 17:13 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Method wrote:
Dont Get One.

There is No reason to at all, and it can be fucking dangerous.

Imagine this for instance:

You park up in town, your in a rush to be somewhere so you leave the disclock off and walk away from your bike. Put the keys in your pocket and go to where your supposed to be.

On the way back you enter the range for your remote, the key fob is being compressed in your pocket and the button is depressed. Your bike is left in gear, it jolts forward trying to start, boom. Your bikes on the floor.

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all the remote starters wire up to your Sidestand switch Laughing , they won't start while it's in gear.

most bike won't move if the sidestands down.

TBH i'd get one, then you can get rid of the iginition barrel Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:


all the remote starters wire up to your Sidestand switch Laughing , they won't start while it's in gear.

most bike won't move if the sidestands down.

What if there is a bit of dirt in your sidestand switch? Or it becomes faulty. The first time you realise will be when your bike hits the dirt before your eyes.

lllN30lll wrote:

TBH i'd get one, then you can get rid of the iginition barrel Very Happy

So how would your lights and indicators work without the ignition barrel switch?
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

remote start has 2 buttons, one turns the ignition to ON, the other starts the bike for you
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:


all the remote starters wire up to your Sidestand switch Laughing , they won't start while it's in gear.

most bike won't move if the sidestands down.

TBH i'd get one, then you can get rid of the iginition barrel Very Happy

I don't have a sidestand switch, and my bike will start in gear.

So you want to sit on the bike, fumble around trying to find your little keyfob, realise you can't press the button with your gloves on, take your gloves off, press the button, your bike starts, get your gloves back on, miss your pocket when putting the keyfob away, bend over to find the keyfob, in doing so you fall off your bike, find keyfob, put it in pocket, ride off.

Or you could turn a key.

If you're about to suggest starting it while getting your gear on, think about what you said about the sidestand switch, you have to be sitting on the bike to start it, according to you.

Eejit.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
remote start has 2 buttons, one turns the ignition to ON, the other starts the bike for you

Never seen any like that, only ones ive ever seen simply have a "Start" and a "Stop" button hooked up to the engine starter switch and killswitch. Bypassing the ignition barrel so it starts without the switch turned on.

But if you say so.

Although it still doesnt mean its safe - What about if your bikes sidestand switch fails?

Also are you intending on fitting it yourself? If so, what about if you dont hook it up correctly to incoporate the sidestand switch?
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carvell grow up with the eejit remarks ok?

take a look at this keyfob, ignition on, ignition off, lights, remote start etc.

i've fitted one to a bike before and couldn't fault it, if your bike doesnt have a sidestand sensor then you can wire it up to your Neutral light. some even go to a sensor in your gearbox to tell if your in neutral https://www.dragondistributing.com/pictures/mars22.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont want an alarm with it cause they always feck up, my dad had one and it kept going off for no reason all time, and it wasnt a cheap one either, but i'm gonna be getting the Datatool Snitcher.

I just thought a remote starter would be class. Smile
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

When alarms first came out, there were devices that could read the signal and then clone it, that's what my biggest fear would be with this. I doubt any of the remote systems have rolling codes.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's another example, this has a cover on it so you don;t press the buttons accidentaly like you said.

try not to argue about stuff if you've never read about them or had one yourself

https://www.extrememotorsales.com/largeremote.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still don't see the point if they don't start up the bike when the side stand is down, I mean, you may as well have a key.

And as I said before, if you start it from further away than a few feet then get distracted (someone talking to you, mobile phone ringing etc) then how easy will it be for someone to make off with your bike.

They're not worth the money, in my opinion.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:

try not to argue about stuff if you've never read about them or had one yourself

Right,

Sit down, Calm down, and shut up for a second.

The reason i am saying all this, and what is behind all the stuff ive been saying, is because i have owned one myself, and know of others too.

Now the problems that can occur with these things are all too common. All those pictures you have posted are of car ones aswell btw.

Now, the sidestand switch arguement - It happened to me, luckily my bike was in the garage at the time and fell onto my work bench, so never hit the floor - Was a lucky escape.

Remote in the pocket - Happened to me, luckily i had left it in neutral so it was allright.

Ignition - With the one i have, and others i have seen, they actually bypass the ignition circuit on a motorcycle, thus allowing you to push the remote button without turning the key for the ignition.

So dont try telling me i dont know what im on about. My posts have been to warn this guy of problems that occur. If he so wishes to get one anyay, then good luck to him. Hopefully he wont have the same problems i have.

For you to be so blind as to ignore the problems that can occur and the dangerous implecations, is just downright unfair to the person who is interested in finding out honest oppinions of these products.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

anders wrote:
Why though, a bit of a waste of time and imo not needed.

I can sometimes see the point in cars, ie in the winter months remote start the car to warm it up!

But on the bike?

If its in a garage would you want it to idle while you dress, surely not, if its outside and you remote start it you risk getting it stolen.

Its just for showing off? Confused

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EXACTLY it's not needed, it's a PERSONAL choice, if he wants one fitted then he can have one fitted.

he's simply asking for advice where to purchase one, he wasn't asking your opinions on them Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

anders wrote:
Its just for showing off? Confused

Pretty much, its the reason i got one.

I like being the guy with the "cool" stuff on his bike.

I soon learnt my lesson.
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 21 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sidestand Issue is sorted by using a sensor in your gearbox or by using the Neutral light bulb

the accidental pressing of the button is shown in my second pic (a simple cover over the buttons), yes the 2nd one is a BIKE one, the first pic was just to show you what the Keyfobs looked like as you'd said you'd never seen or heard of one
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