racing school or acu licencing

[tommyboi]

i is there any racing schools at brands hatch or any track near ,

will this give me an acu license or will i have to do somthing else for that thanks

[G]

An ACU licence isn't greatly useful unless you're racing, even for someone of your age.

To get your ACU licence you need to do a race school and a theory test at the ACU. BMCRC offers a school that combines both, but you need your own bike and it's on next weekend at snetterton, so a bit late for this year.

There aren't that many trackdays you can do if you're not racing and those that you can will likely have a very fast pace. May be counterproductive having ex BSBikes ridden by very fast riders tearing it up past you on your first few sessions.

[cunni]

Yeah, I agree. Stick to regular track days for a while, get yourself fast enough to enter the fast group at most tracks, then get your self to a point where hardly anyone ever overtakes you in the fast group and then start comparing your lap times (Which you are not allowed to record on most track days - So be descreat and use onboard lap timing) to races on similar capacity machines at the circuits you have ridden on. Once you are convinced you are doing laps slightly faster than the last three or four riders (who are quite often not really ready to race, I should know, lol) then you may be ready to get racing.

Another view on all this is to get to the front of the fast group on track days and be pushing so hard that you are ever-so-slightly pushing the front end and the rear keeps spinning up as you exit corners. If you are still holding a good line and this is improving your lap times as opposed to showing off, then you could try racing. Beward though, Track day organisers don't smile too kindly on people pushing really hard and ending up in the gravel or overtaking really close to other bikers on track. Listen to the briefing in the morning and take it all onboard.

Don't try using slicks until you are sliding the rear about on the gas, otherwise you are just wasting money, lots of money!

Once happy with your progress, Apply for your race licence, which involves the ACU-T Course (theory test mentioned above) and you'll also need proof of competance on a bike. (either an ACU certified race school, such as Ron Haslam's, or a Full UK Road Bike Licence) Once that's sorted, join a race club and send them the club membership form and money to join, the ACU licence application form and dosh for the ACU (the club need to sign it) and a letter requesting they send the Licence application and money to the ACU. Then you will need a stamped self addressed envelope for the club to send your season information and race entry forms back.

Basically, if you are a seasoned rider who is dam fast with timed proof compared to racing, then go for it. If not, wait a while! You will only waste time and money and get very hurt if you don't. Trust me on that one!

For lap times to compare yourself with, try joining the New Era MCC Forum and look in their Lap Times section. An example of the read outs is shown here: Mallory Park - Good Weather

Bare in mind, it is best to compare results on days that you can recall temperature and weather conditions, so you aren't comparing your best sunny laps to someone at the back of a wet race! Wet race at Mallory on a 1000cc inline 4 would be somewhere around 1min05 seconds per lap, dry race would be somewhere around 55seconds per lap to be competative!

Hope this helps!
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[carlnicholson...]

Sorry, but I'm a little in the dark on this aswell.

I did the premier at Ron Haslams last year, and will be going back for the elite after my wedding this year.

So, does this training count towards an ACU licence then? How long is the training valid for?

I am interested I starting in club racing as and when I can finance it, so any help would be great.

Cheers.
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[MarJay]

I doubt the Ron Haslam school contibutes to your ACU license unless it improves the overall standard of your riding which is required for the test.

The ACU day is like your 'test' and the Ron Haslam school is like advanced rider training rather than specific preparation for your test.
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[Zimbo]

The ron haslam doesn't help towards your license at all, having said that you don't need any track training to get your ACU licence.
Simply attend a half day course at Rugby (ACU headquarters), pass a simple multiple choice test, then join a race club and get them to sign your application. Licence appears by return of post.
You do need to demonstrate that you're competent to ride a motorcycle, a copy of your licence is sufficient.
The only track school that qualifies is at Darley Moor in Derbyshire.

[G]

BMCRC definitely requires a 'race school' of some type.
I believe that does include the Ron Haslem school.

[tommyboi]

so shall i go for the race school or shall i just get the licence , my dad races hotrods and says he will sort out where to get it and stuff

[G]

Zimbo: at 15 I suspect there is definitely no other way to prove competence to ride. Also he has little other way to learn, really .

[Zimbo]

Ah, didn't realise he was 15. In that case he needs the Mick Boddice training school at Darley, as he's ACU approved.

https://www.boddicedarleytraining.co.uk/

[carlnicholson...]

Sorry to sound like a numpty, but what is the BMCRC?

I've looked on a few Club sites and can't see it mentioned.
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[G]

Tried google?

British Motorcycle Racing Club.

Often known as 'bemsee'.


www.bemsee.net

MRO (motorcycle racing organisation) is part of it and is a faster level club.

It's arguably the biggest club in the UK.