M/C Recovery equipment, ideas/links/experiences needed

[Klause]

Right my last meeting at work was to do with people putting their backs out recovering the scooters in the van, basically too many incidents and we need a solution. We know bike ramps exist but ever tried pushing a bike with a messed up front end from smash, do able but if your doing it every day not good.

We looked at how https://www.sos-motorcycle-recovery.co.uk/ do it. They use special vans where the whole back end lowers and you simply push the bike in. Trouble is we need the van to remain useable to service the bikes in aswel, looks quiet tight in there once the van has been converted.

The best idea we have come up with is to find some sort of winch that fits in the van, use a ramp aswel and a clamp to the front wheel. People said there is a company which make this product but we can't find who or where?

So people of BCF have you ever had your bike recovered and impressed how they did it?

Good Karma to the good ideas/links.
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Current bikes: 1960 Triumph 5ta x2, TTR600RE, KTM200EXC, Cagiva Elephant 900ie.

[sickpup]

First you need a sign written high top long wheelbase van.

Light bars fitted front and rear.

Full width gas strut operated ramp.

2 ton winch with 4-5 metre remote fitted behind gearbox tunnel. You will require an emergency cut out switch for the winch on all 3 rear doors. Winch training and certificate are essential for insurance.

1 large shovel. Good for moving front enders.

1 X 1 ton folding engine crane.

Full first aid kit.

2 X 25kg bags of sand.

Fire extinguishers.

Hi -Viz jacket for every operative.

2 people for an accident recovery.

I can explain all the gear if you need.

[The View Askew]

A Trailer. with all the lifting equipment fitted. and on the other side, it folds down into a slot in the back of the van. once the scooter is up. it can be rolled across the trailer into the back. and off you go.
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[Klause]

Basically we have transit type vans. Our job is to go round and service the pizza hut bikes. Often they are too smashed up to fix in the van and need to be taken back to the workshop (where I work at the moment).

Recently the mobile mechanics have had days or even weeks off because they did their back in trying to push the scooters into their vans. Common sense is they should get someone to help but this isn't always possible. Now the company has said enough is enough and they are going to fork out for winch/ramp equipment but they want stuff designed for bikes so the health and safety people don't get arsey.

They must be compact enough to fit *IN* the van and have tools/work space.

Apparently there are companies who make winches that fit in the back of the van and a ramp with a wheel clamp?? I've not seen these in life but some american does them sorta...
https://www.motorcycleramps.com/rampage_power_lift.jpg

Looking for a UK make really but with no luck.
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Current bikes: 1960 Triumph 5ta x2, TTR600RE, KTM200EXC, Cagiva Elephant 900ie.

[sickpup]

Not worth it. Many crashed bikes don't fit in them and it restricts th amount of bikes you can carry.

Consultant job available?

[Klause]

[sickpup]

Thats why you have the engine crane and winch.

[Klause]

Trouble is health and safety numpties might see this a bodge way etc. We might have to get something custom made up, was just wondering how the pro's do it, SOS people seem to have the best way but maybe not the best way for us.

Consulting what
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Current bikes: 1960 Triumph 5ta x2, TTR600RE, KTM200EXC, Cagiva Elephant 900ie.

[sickpup]

To teach you how to do it.

You are probably already in breach of health and safety.

[Klause]

[sickpup]

You might want to ask them to bring the rig used for fingerprint jobs.

[GearboxGeezer]

A tail lift perhaps? All you gota do is put the bike on the tail, then go up then drag it off

[Minky_monkey]

Funnily enough, we've just invested in bike recovery equipment for our tilt and slide.

We've bought one of these:

https://www.aframes.co.uk/images/bikeloda.jpg

From intertrade engineering. Wheel the bikes front wheel into it, strap it down and winch it up the bed and secure to the bed.

£295 plus vat.

I've had to be trained and certificated to use it though in accordance to our PAS43 regulations. I'll get my bike set up on it and get some photos.

There`s always the dynacycler version.

https://www.dynateck.co.uk/new%20dynacycler.htm

[Klause]

Ta, I will show all these ideas to my boss tomorrow.
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Current bikes: 1960 Triumph 5ta x2, TTR600RE, KTM200EXC, Cagiva Elephant 900ie.

[Minky_monkey]

If you're interested in "proper" training to a recognised standard. These people may be of interest.

https://www.ivrtraining.com/index.htm

In particular relevance to what you're talking about I fully recommend this:

https://www.ivrtraining.com/motorecovery.htm


At least there couldn't be any comeback from people saying they were not properly trained!

[Minky_monkey]

Just as an aside. I keep an eye out on the used market.

Just for idea purposes, here's a couple of vans that I've come across.

https://www.recoveryworld.co.uk/vehicles_used_details2.asp?id=1523

And

https://www.recoveryworld.co.uk/vehicles_used_details4.asp?id=1481