CCTV - Negative or Positive.

[WR450_geezer]

Got to do an essay on CCTV. Mainly need the views of the public on CCTV.

Would just like to know your guys views on CCTV, any personal experiences.

Do you think of it as negative or positive. Etc

Any help would be much appreicated.

Many Thanks WR
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[Black Knight]

Generally, its crap.

poor quality, awful sound, if there is any, and most of the time totally useless.

A much better system is a BFD.
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[lozzypop1]

personal onpinion...

for catching offenders, good
for stopping offences, bad
(have yet to work out how long it would take someone to respond to a rape after seeing it on CCTV. Too little too late perhaps?)
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[WR450_geezer]

[Black Knight]

[WR450_geezer]

[stinkwheel]

Ok, I'll give you an example.

My moped was stolen from a locked and 24 hour security patrolled compound at the University of Edinburgh. The whole area was covered by CCTV cameras. Absolutely no way it could have been removed without passing at least two of them at the entrance, they sure as hell didn't carry it out over a 20ft high wall with razor wire on top.

The police were not interested in this fact in the slightest, nor did they get involved in any way other than taking the details over the phone and issuing a crime number, I did not speak to an actual policeman at all.

When I approached the university to get hold of the tapes to have a look for myself I was informed they did not have any equipment to play back the time-lapse tapes on and anyway they wouldn't release them to me if they did.

So. In conclusion, TOTALLY FUCKING USELESS.

CCTV footage is only of any use if someone is prepared to look at it, in the majority of cases they aren't.
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[Mister James]

In theory cctv can be used as a useful tool, in practise the implementation is rubbish, or it is used to enforce laws against more petty offences such as parking in Tesco's for more than 2 hours.

Harrow is one of the most 'CCTVed' boroughs in London, but I don't see it making an improvement. All it seems to do is provide obese security staff in the shopping centres a reason to talk into their radios and try and pretend they are working for CTU or SWAT, rather than Game or M&S.

The town centre is still filthy, squalid, full of illegal DVD-selling chinese immigrants and Chuggers, with gangs of hoodied youths and little black muggers wandering around doing as they pleased. I can't remember the last time I saw a police officer there - which would surely be a fair greater deterrent.
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[Rookie]

CCTV is useless in many cases I think; if you've got someone monitoring a screen for 12 hours straight you can guarantee that after an hour they're not actually going to be looking, they'll just be dozing off. It's the same as passports at an airport; they don't actually check your passport 9 times out of 10, they just look at it without taking any information in.

As far as vehicles go, ANPR is certainly a step forward because there's no human input and therefore no human error.

There are definite upsides to CCTV, like in court for identification purposes (except people can get around this by shielding their face) but I think it's a poor system. However the only alternative as far as I can see, is security guards and/or dogs.

[The View Askew]

[lozzypop1]

[sickpup]

[Dazbo666]

My personal experience of CCTV footage??

A few years ago my brand new car at the time was parked at work in a security patrolled carpark which also had 24 hour CCTV cameras etc so I naturally thought it would be safe.

But some scrote strolls into the carpark, right underneath at least two cameras, rips the rear wiper and wiper arm off the back of my car (denting and scratching the tailgate in the process) and calmly walks away.

The Police eventually viewed the footage, but the B&W images produced were so unclear as to be useless - it was impossible to get a decent image, let alone a useful description

However, I realise it was a relatively minor incident, but the fact was that the CCTV system was completely useless for the job it was intended to do...
I guess almost any other product could have been returned to the supplier as being unfit for the purpose it was intended for, but I know for a fact that this particular system is still being used to this day
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[killa]

Some interesting stories there, I was mugged in front of CCTV once, and the police were like, so what.

It really doesn’t do anything unless in the event someone is to be fined for something.

I can imagine someone has a good result from it, but that really isn’t a reason for thinking it is a deterrent or anything. Some criminals are dumb and don’t think about CCTV, so they commit a crime like mugging or burgling a house. The crime is already done, so nothing improved there.
Some criminals know the cameras well, some know that certain ones can’t make you out properly so you can’t be identified.
You can see you own car from your own PC on google earth quite well, a camera on a lamp post in 2006 should be able to make out a thief.
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