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Itchy
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Wealth vs happiness? Reply with quote

Wealth vs happiness?


A thread semi inspired by the looks or IQ thread a few months ago
I'm just curious as I've been offered a biz opportunity which looks very
promising and hits a niche market which nobody else seems able to
fill.


However doing a 9-6ish (not quite if anybody reads never ending work
and the following never ending work revisited threads) , has allowed me
to make a large number of friends and go on 2-3 ride outs a week , such that
I feel quite happy and want to return to that part of the country though this
means I can't do the biz oop north.

Anybody else have thoughts on this ? ,what is more important to you?
wealth or happiness (using a hypothetical you can't have both).
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happiness by far.

The most valuable thing you have is your time, spend it wisely.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

money != happiness Smile
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happiness to me would involve not having to worry about money so i'd have to go for the money option.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happiness.

illusion wrote:
money != happiness Smile


What if you had a terminal disease to go with your dosh?
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's something of a misleading question, as for most of us money is a contributing factor towards our happiness.

Since my crash I've had to face some tough questions re. my future life and career, and have come to the conclusion I'm stuck in a rut and not getting the most out of life.

Its definitely something we should all consider every so often, to make sure we've not lost our way.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:
It's something of a misleading question, as for most of us money is a contributing factor towards our happiness.

Indeed.

For many money is significantly helps happiness.
The majority of people probably try to get money for happiness; a few do seem to try and get/keep it for the sake of it, but then doing so tends to make them happy to some degree.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a mix of both is the best.

Live a happy life affording to do what you want to comfortably which is what i/my family is like at the moment.

I wouldn't like to be mega rich because then after a while there's no fun of getting excited to do things. It will just be a case of oh i want that ferrari or which island should i vist today.

Plus people use you if you have loads of wedge.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver wrote:
Happiness.

illusion wrote:
money != happiness Smile


What if you had a terminal disease to go with your dosh?


Hold on I remember that

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is an expression in C or was it C++ or was it both , where != stands for not equal to rather than equal to.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcatate wrote:
I think a mix of both is the best.

Live a happy life affording to do what you want to comfortably which is what i/my family is like at the moment.

I wouldn't like to be mega rich because then after a while there's no fun of getting excited to do things. It will just be a case of oh i want that ferrari or which island should i vist today.

Plus people use you if you have loads of wedge.


I'm kind of uncertain my sister is 30 this year and she aimed for happiness , she travelled the world more times than people have hot meals , had a string of not so good jobs and a ton of mates but only a few proper friends.


She however has taken a look at her life and thinks OMG I have nothing to show for my life 9 years after graduating (computer sciences).

I don't want to end up like that , and I am facing those same decisions myself.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:

Its definitely something we should all consider every so often, to make sure we've not lost our way.


yeah I know its why I asked the question jumping from job to job at the moment keeps making me reflect on things perhaps a little too much for my own liking I suppose...
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good balance is needed and the amount of money is relative.
I am a lot happier now than I was when I had no money a few years ago.
I am not 'rich' now but I don't have to worry about running out every month and I have no debt.
Previously I was always hell-bent on becoming very rich, but now I have 'enough' I'm a bit more relaxed.
Money gives you freedom to for example own a bike, travel/holiday and a basic feeling of security which is important for happiness.
Having a lack of money means anxiety and hardship.
My main motivation now is to find a job that I find enjoyable. My focus is more on a basic minimum that I would need to be 'happy' rather than a greed for more and more money.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happiness + Money = True Happiness Wink
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no debt, a Mc Job part time, a uni course full time, a fantastic boyfriend, and a loving family. We've always been poor, up until I hit my teens, so I'm used to not having money around. I love a spending spree, but I don't have expensive taste and I prefer a walk along the beach to eating at an expensive restaurant.
I said (just before my grand dad died last month) that I thought my life was perfect. it's my birthday this month, an there's very little I actually want for it. Sure, I'll get couple hundred quid, but i'll just blow it on silly things for lack of something I actually *need*.
Besides having the loved ones who have died in my life alive again, there's nothing my life is lacking, and I earn ÂŁ5.30 an hour working 3 days a week. I'm hardly rich, but I'm so happy with my life. Can't imagine cash improving what's already perfect.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinese Proverbs:

With money you can buy a house, but not a home.

With money you can buy a clock, but not time.

With money you can buy a bed, but not sleep.

With money you can buy a book, but not knowledge.

With money you can buy a doctor, but not good health.

With money you can buy a position, but not respect.

With money you can buy blood, but not life.

With money you can buy sex, but not love.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

People seem to forget that no, money doesn't buy you happiness... But it buys you opportunity, which is a valuable thing many people don't have.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

loz2k6 wrote:
Chinese Proverbs:


Too much time on their hands….

loz2k6 wrote:
With money you can buy a house, but not a home.


True, you might have loads of money and own 3 houses, you live in one but you can buy another, house.

loz2k6 wrote:
With money you can buy a clock, but not time.


Cleverly put together, means shi* all really. Just obvious.

loz2k6 wrote:
With money you can buy a bed, but not sleep


What?!
Ok then perhaps you bought it for someone else. Rolling Eyes

loz2k6 wrote:
With money you can buy a book, but not knowledge.


Hmm, true, Jordans Biography is a waste of life.

loz2k6 wrote:
With money you can buy a doctor, but not good health.


You can pay for services of a doctor, so not 100% accurate, also if you were born with bad health this is quite patronising.

loz2k6 wrote:
With money you can buy a position, but not respect.


Chinese proverb say, bribe your way through life.

loz2k6 wrote:
With money you can buy sex, but not love.


Tell that to Steven Hawkings
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lack of money can be a catalyst for depression and stress, so having enough money could be seen as a way of being happy.

That being said, no one ever has enough money!

I'm working long hours at the moment, I took the job for the financial security it bought. I get a good salary, but have no time to use my new found wealth! I dream of going home at 5pm, or working a four day week.

Having watched "About a Boy" (again, for the 27th time Wink )last night I believe that Hugh Grant presented a very strong case for the "money can't buy you happiness" argument.
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So whats better then?

Or it is another horses and courses / different strokes for different folks type situation then?
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happiness.

Remember money is just a system set up by human's to trade with each other, I obviously realise you now need money to live in the world we are in.

You said your sister beleive's she has nothing to show for her time. She is very wrong. Everything that she has to show for it is inside her head, now part of her. It possibly changed her character, or her perception of things etc. It most certainly will have added to what she has experienced and learnt.

When she dies all of those things she may have "to show for" her life will be gone, along with all those memories and experiences.

Which would you prefer to have on your deathbed. More memories or more innanimate objects?

Edit: before any pedantic person incapable of reading between the lines post's, I realise to have some of those experiences it requires money. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reuben wrote:
Happiness.
Which would you prefer to have on your deathbed. More memories or more innanimate objects?



I'm uncertain , I look at my parents who worked 7 days a week for at least 30 years and talk to them about it , they consider time has moved quickly and part of me thinks this is due to the fact that their memories of time do not stand out such that everyday you work , and this becomes so insignificant to your mind you don't recall it (much like trying to remember if you have locked your doors you've done it so often your memory confuses if you've done it today or if that memory was from a previous time and you try the handle just to make sure).


Anyway deathbed? , I keep hearing tales by bikers like my instructor who said he wanted to die in a ball of fire caused by crazy riding. Me I'm not sure of this either.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhap's the answer, like with most thing's, is just to try it.

If you do not enjoy the extra money and time consuming job then you simply change to one that revert's back to a system that suit's you.

It is an experience and will give you memory's to try it, so I'll stick with the happiness answer. Razz
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't believe all the greedy bastards on here! Laughing

If you have true happiness, then money will be irrelevent. If you are happy then by the very definition you will have everything you want/need.

Killa, I think you're missing the point entirely with your response to the proverbs! Wink
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 10 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i could choose money or happiness, id choose happiness

our pursuit of money is just to help us pursue happiness

I am soon gonna be getting a big heap of money but the rest of my life is a bit of a mess which makes me a bit unhappy.

The big heap of money will give me all sorts of options and choices to sort my life out if I make the effort to use it wisely.

If I sit on it and dont use it, or waste it, then it wont make me happy.

Money is potential happiness, but it doesnt guarantee it.

However unhappiness can be a good thing. It can drive us to improve our lot. If you are happy and content with what you have, there is no need to make the effort to improve your situation. This can then lead to unhappiness if the situation deteriates and you have missed the chance to improve it.

Buddists try to remove their desires and get inner contentment by ignoring their natural instincts to improve their situation. I dont think thats very healthy. If you are unhappy about something, thats the first step to changing it and making it better. Everything can be improved.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 10 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bollox, Give me money and ill make new friends. And dont tell them im rich Laughing Rolling Eyes

Is palmer happy ?
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