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mike_neon
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Honda stop making VFR400? Reply with quote

Why has honda stopped making the VFR400 , i aint really into the motor bike world yet, but could any one bring some light to me as why honda stopped making this bike, i am interested in buying one once i past my test, but i can only find second hand 1's etc...why is this? and if i buy second hand what things should i look out for? thanks all!

p.s once i turn 17 and do my restricted access test, i can get a de-restricted VFR 400 cant i? i was under the impression you could only get a 125 at that age?

Thanks again!
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zaknafien




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PostPosted: 21:12 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably failed the new emmision laws like the ZXR400 has.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about Honda making them.

When you are 17, and done your restricted access test, you can ride a 33bhp bike for 2 years. After than you can ride anything Smile

I think this is in the FAQ's forum Wink
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mike_neon
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh so a VFR400 does comes under 33BHP...i aint a mechanic...but why is it more powerfull than an NSR125 if the BHP is the same...i gather that the CC is higher obviously..but i dont know how this really affects the bike in performance wise?

would you recommend a VFR over an NSR?
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

what do you mean its failed emmision laws? as in emmision made by the bike was to high for standard sets by vehicles etc?
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Ste
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oh so a VFR400 does comes under 33BHP...i aint a mechanic...but why is it more powerfull than an NSR125 if the BHP is the same...i gather that the CC is higher obviously..but i dont know how this really affects the bike in performance wise?

would you recommend a VFR over an NSR?


Any bike can be under the 33bhp law once it is restricted. The BHP isn't the same as an NSR. An NSR is around 25bhp full power, and a VFR is around 45-50bhp full power.

An NSR is a different bike to an NSR. I would recommend a VFR over an NSR to some who has a license allowing them to ride either

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what do you mean its failed emmision laws? as in emmision made by the bike was to high for standard sets by vehicles etc?


Yes. All veichles have to conform to lots of standards, and if they don't reach them, they cannot be sold.
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mike_neon
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if they dont pass the qualifications...arent they taken off the road?

so if i passed the restricted access test..it would have to be restricted to 33BHP if not already done, as you say full power it is 45-50BHP? and what kinds of timing are possible with a restricted VFR in terms of 0-60 and top speed?
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TiN
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK, there was only a small batch of official UK NC30s made back in the late 80's/early 90's...this was mainly due to the fact that you could get 2 Gixer 750s and still have some change over for the same price Confused

Again, AFAIK, they stopped making them in Japan when they introduced the NC35 (about 1994), so you can only get used machines nowadays.

VFR400 power can vary from 53-65bhp. The gearing on the VFR is quite tall as standard, so you can probably do about 40-50mph in first gear. Top speed, again, varies, but you can expect 120+mph from it.
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zaknafien




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PostPosted: 21:49 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

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well if they dont pass the qualifications...arent they taken off the road?


Not if they're registered before the deadline date, otherwise 80% of second hand vehicles would be taken off the road as they'd all fail some kind of new fucked up european directive.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, emmission laws only apply to newly registered vehicles...hence why the Fazer 600, ZX7, ZXR4, RS250 etc. have all been discontinued, and current stock discounted.

The powers that be dictate that all new bikes need to be fuel injected within a few years.
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zaknafien




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PostPosted: 21:56 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

/me has eyes peeled for a thundercat bargain since thats failed too.
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craigT19
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

or it could just be because the vfr400 is poo

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PostPosted: 22:08 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought they stopped they years ago
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Robby
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 04 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

My VFR does 55 in first gear, and thats downgeared.

Its not poo.

it just has issues.
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batman
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 05 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

55 is too tall for first :)
vfr was stopped in 94 when the rvf replaced it, that was stopped in 99, and sold off till about 00 in japan
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 05 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The powers that be dictate that all new bikes need to be fuel injected within a few years


Bastards. That means all bikes are gonna be a pain to work on Sad
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zaknafien




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PostPosted: 18:22 - 05 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression using FI was easier than carbs?
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 05 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The powers that be dictate that all new bikes need to be fuel injected within a few years.
Why? Confused
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zaknafien




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PostPosted: 18:33 - 05 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

To pass emmision laws.
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craigT19
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 05 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sorry robby.... i didnt mean it, im just still bitter about the fact i wanted a vfr but was too tall to fit on one Sad.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 05 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaknafien wrote:
I was under the impression using FI was easier than carbs?


In some ways yes, some ways no.

Some efi systems are a doddle. The one used on the Triumph TT600 and T595, etc stores the fuel maps in flash memory. You can reprogram them yourselves with the right software and lead. Some Aus guy has cracked it and will sell you the software and lead.

Some of the others are more difficult, with the only real easy way to do it being to use the power commander bodge job

All the best

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PostPosted: 21:09 - 05 May 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaknafien wrote:
/me has eyes peeled for a thundercat bargain since thats failed too.


Ah A man after my own heart I passed my test 3 weeks ago and since then have been riding around on my thudercat....
...I love it....

l8ta guyz

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