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Star La
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PostPosted: 04:27 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: CBR 125 or an NSR 125? Reply with quote

Not sure which one I should get?

I've been riding my Gilera DNA 125 for a while now and want a different bike. Any Honda/Bike Guru's out there to advise? Idea

My budget is around 1.5k. I want to get a gear bike to gain experience for the long run of biking adventures i should hopefully have:D

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carlnicholson...
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PostPosted: 05:08 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR, without question.

The CBR is just a tarted up CG. The NSR has many more larger bike attributes and will prepare you better for your next move upwards. Wink
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR, definitely.

Look at the number of CBR owners that come on here asking how to get more speed out of it.
While get a few NSR owners do as well, the NSR is already quite a bit faster.
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR! all the way

I had a varadero 125 (have you considered one of those?) for 9 months but wanted a 2stroke so got the NSR

have sat and pootled on a cbr, felt like a push bike with a front fairing, very odd, guttless too.

only good thing about it was the fuel gauge...but even that was innacurate.

both are hondas so reliability is not really a question.

NSr will be a little more to insure than a newer cbr,
NSR foxeye models have to looks and the performance.
the cbr has bicycle wheels and lacks poke.

I'm currently selling mine, tis on ebay.



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PostPosted: 09:53 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

what do you want more?

Speed = NSR
or
Reliability = CBR

Had the CBR and their is nothing wrong with them at all Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

UrbanRacer wrote:
what do you want more?

Speed = NSR
or
Reliability = CBR

Had the CBR and their is nothing wrong with them at all Thumbs Up



nothing wrong with the reliability of the nsr if maintainence is maintained. did 12000km on mine without a hickup,
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

UrbanRacer wrote:

Speed = NSR
or
Reliability = CBR

How do you know the CBR is more reliable?

From posts on the forum I'd say I've seen a similar number of problems with new CBRs as new NSRs (no old CBRs around really to judge).
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a CBR, never serviced it. it ran fine. Laughing
you go on about how its just a CG with a fairing well......... look how many of them are in use in china.
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

That shouldnt even be a question. The NSR hands down - end of.
Its honda so you know there is a certain level of reliabilty, its fuck fast for a 125 (not as fast as the mito or RS125) but very close to. I have an NSR and have no regrets what so ever...(famous last words.lol)
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

UrbanRacer wrote:
i had a CBR, never serviced it. it ran fine. Laughing
you go on about how its just a CG with a fairing well......... look how many of them are in use in china.




ARGH I typed out a lengthy response ...then it got lost in the bowls of the forum.

pfft.


NSR kicks CBR's butt
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
NSR kicks CBR's butt


i'm bored of this thread now, thanks for your input Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 11:45 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get an RS
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cbr may well be more reliable according to some people, but it looks like a rollerskate on happy pills, and you'll probably destroy it out of anger from its breathlessness.

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PostPosted: 12:31 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

UrbanRacer wrote:
Simple wrote:
NSR kicks CBR's butt


i'm bored of this thread now, thanks for your input Thumbs Up



Oki, byee Very Happy

RS's are definitely unreliable, so highly strung.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a nice CBR, I'm selling mine. . . .
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a nice NSR I also happen to be selling mine and I can deliver Wink
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Not ridden a CBR, but tend to find small 4 strokes pretty horrible with asthmatic power deliveries. The CBR is not bad looking (it is not a CG in drag, it is a totally different engine, a far more modern design), although it is noticeably built down to a lower price point than the NSR / RS / Mito.

The Mito and RS are not unreliable if treated properly. Trouble is they are learner bikes, often owned by people who are still learning what happens when they fail to treat a bike properly. The NSR seems more able to put up with owner abuse (although more prone to expensive electrical issues).

If you do fail to maintain a CBR and let the oil level get too low, do expect it to go bang. And the resulting bill is likely to be rather more expensive than with a 2 stroke. On an NSR the oil light means you should put some oil in some time soon, on a 4 stroke like the CBR it means you have just wrecked the engine and should prepare to spend a hell of a lot of money.

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PostPosted: 12:42 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do your A2 (assuming your 17+) get a 400 and restrict it.

It should be a bit more reliable and IMO will look better. Mine has never been restricted since I got it (ZXR400) so I dont /really/ know what the power's like on a restricted bike, but I wouldn't of thought it would be that bad, and probably quicker than the NSR/CBR (definitely the CBR), riichy's got a restricted ZXR4 so he might be better to ask. Plus you know when your 2 years is up (or the ride home) you can whip the restrictors out and have a 60odd bhp bike that'll touch 130 and destroy most cars on the road acceleration wise.

If you save a bit more I would of thought you could get a bike and some training for around £2000. My A2 cost me £380, and my bike was £1375 so not a great deal more than you have already.

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PostPosted: 13:01 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kitten wrote:
If you want a nice CBR, I'm selling mine. . . .


I can deliver too!
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kitten wrote:
If you want a nice CBR, I'm selling mine. . . .


I can deliver too!
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing I can deliver it three times, and beat your 2 Cool
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

If you want just to get used to geared bikes go for the CBR, less torque and less power so letting the clutch bite too quickly won't give as much of a violent jerk.

If you want to go all out, get the NSR, more power, torque and more resemblance to biker bikes but cost more to maintain mainly because they are 2 strokes so they need 2T oil.

If you plan on using it for frequent use...get the CBR, social domestic and pleasure...get the NSR.

It all depends what you want to use it for and how confident you feel you are.

Personally I recommend the CBR: more MPG, clutch is less aggressive is engaged too fast, don't need 2T oil and is and all round more learner friendly bike to learn on, plus if you buy second hand, you can get one cheap then move to a NSR or a larger bike in the future.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul@125power wrote:

If you want to go all out, get the NSR, more power, torque and more resemblance to biker bikes but cost more to maintain mainly because they are 2 strokes so they need 2T oil.

They do cost more to run, but cost less to buy in most cases.

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If you plan on using it for frequent use...get the CBR, social domestic and pleasure...get the NSR.

I don't see that this makes any difference. I commuted on an NSR for quite a while. Was mostly on slow / town roads, but I was still glad of the extra 2 stroke go.
If it involves NSL dual carrigeways, then I'd take the NSR anyday.



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you can get one cheap then move to a NSR or a larger bike in the future.

Or you could get an NSR even cheaper in the first place Smile.
Seems rather stupid moving through lots of 125s (as I did).
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

GearboxGeezer wrote:
Get an RS


I was thinking that would be my next bike (RS 250) after the one I'm about to get.

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If you want a nice NSR I also happen to be selling mine and I can deliver

I'm looking for a black one - however, whats the mileage on your bike and how much?

As for the varadero 125 - it does look quite nice but not as nice as the NSR Razz

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Do your A2 (assuming your 17+) get a 400 and restrict it.

I thought about doing that a while back (I'm 20). How much is it roughly to restrict a bike, do you know?


Thanks for all your input - It seems a unanimous decision. I shall be favouring the NSR over the CBR as i prefer speed and the look of a bike over other things Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 21 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul@125power wrote:
Hi

If you want just to get used to geared bikes go for the CBR, less torque and less power so letting the clutch bite too quickly won't give as much of a violent jerk.

If you want to go all out, get the NSR, more power, torque and more resemblance to biker bikes but cost more to maintain mainly because they are 2 strokes so they need 2T oil.

If you plan on using it for frequent use...get the CBR, social domestic and pleasure...get the NSR.

It all depends what you want to use it for and how confident you feel you are.

Personally I recommend the CBR: more MPG, clutch is less aggressive is engaged too fast, don't need 2T oil and is and all round more learner friendly bike to learn on, plus if you buy second hand, you can get one cheap then move to a NSR or a larger bike in the future.


Hi,

I'm pretty confident on a bike. I have a DNA125 with a 180 engine so its quite fast for a scooter. I'm looking more to the appearance and speed which the NSR seems to have over the CBR.

As for the gears - where i live, there is a very quite road where I can adjust to the gears as i've never ridden a bike with gears before but i heard its easier than driving a manual car?
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