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audioillity
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 27 Mar 2006    Post subject: negative feedback Reply with quote

ok so how many of you have got negative feedback when going for your first bike.

i get some female friends againist it as well as family, male friends are ok with it.

i guess its 99% of us really
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 27 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait til you come off. Thats when it really flows. The old 'I told you so' routines. Rolling Eyes Notice they still dont mind asking you for pillion rides when they need em tho.
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 27 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can see my mums POV as her dad died when he was in his 20s, which is never good for me if i want to ride. ( i am 21 now though)

(the funny thing is shes fine for me to fly a small single engien plane with only one door, not on my side)
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PostPosted: 02:36 - 27 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had plenty. My mum was never keen, but has thankfully given me a free rein and whilst she isn't all that happy about it, knows it's what I want and that I won't be stupid.

My brother thinks it's the coolest thing ever, and wants to go pillion. I told him I'm not taking him without a new helmet that fits him and a good jacket. He changed his mind. Laughing

My literature teacher found out the top sped of the Thundercat and now won't stop calling it a deathtrap. Rolling Eyes

My Dad probably won't be too happy; he was very nearly killed on one 15 or 20 years ago, so it's understandable.

When I was on a lesson just before my test, we were on a dual carriageway approaching a roundabout. We were turning right, so all had our indicators on to move into the right hand lane. My instructor said 'OK, move across' and then there was this bloody great exhale of air. I checked my mirror and saw him move across (before us students, as he should) and missed being wiped out by a car by literally inches. He darted back across and just missed her, and I went back in sharpish too. When we came up behind her he went up to her LH window and gave her a proper yelling down. He confessed later that if he hadn't been on a lesson, he'd have loved to have booted her door in good and proper. Stupid bint.

That experience, for the first time, really brought it down to me just how vunerable bike riders are. One idiot not looking properly; like the Mondeo bint going 80mph, and you could be gone in an instant. It's really valuable that you know how to ride defensively to stop yourself getting killed. I guess without knowing the level of thought you have to have on a bike compared to a car, people really can see them as deaths waiting to happen. So it's understandable how worried family members and friends get.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 27 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My family were not keen on me getting a bike, but living where we do and not being old enough for a car i need some thing so i can go out to town etc. They know i will ride safe and not go out doing stupid things so just accepted that it was my choice about whether i get one or not.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 27 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie wrote:
When I was on a lesson just before my test, we were on a dual carriageway approaching a roundabout. We were turning right, so all had our indicators on to move into the right hand lane. My instructor said 'OK, move across' and then there was this bloody great exhale of air. I checked my mirror and saw him move across (before us students, as he should) and missed being wiped out by a car by literally inches. He darted back across and just missed her, and I went back in sharpish too. When we came up behind her he went up to her LH window and gave her a proper yelling down. He confessed later that if he hadn't been on a lesson, he'd have loved to have booted her door in good and proper. Stupid bint.


You're making it sound like the instructor pulled into the right hand lane in front of a car, which isn't really the fault of the "stupid bint" even if she was speeding. Just because you're sat there with your indicators on, doesn't give you the right of way to change lanes if something is already in it. Even worse, he told you to pull in front of it too. If you switched places, and said that the car pulled out in front of the speeding bike, there would be plenty of people saying "stupid bint". I guess there was probably more to it than that, but your description doesn't make that clear.

Even with extreme provocation, booting a door in, unless you're on a stolen bike or have no registration plates, is a good way to end up using the money you'd saved for the new leathers/hugger/steering damper/thundercat paying to repair the damage. Especially with so many camera phones easily available to take pictures. Everyone makes a cock up every now and then - I'm sure you wouldn't be too chuffed and simply regard it as "natural justice" if, after one of yours, someone decided to follow you to your destination and push your bike off it's sidestand.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 27 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmahon wrote:


You're making it sound like the instructor pulled into the right hand lane in front of a car, which isn't really the fault of the "stupid bint" even if she was speeding. Just because you're sat there with your indicators on, doesn't give you the right of way to change lanes if something is already in it. Even worse, he told you to pull in front of it too. If you switched places, and said that the car pulled out in front of the speeding bike, there would be plenty of people saying "stupid bint". I guess there was probably more to it than that, but your description doesn't make that clear.

Even with extreme provocation, booting a door in, unless you're on a stolen bike or have no registration plates, is a good way to end up using the money you'd saved for the new leathers/hugger/steering damper/thundercat paying to repair the damage. Especially with so many camera phones easily available to take pictures. Everyone makes a cock up every now and then - I'm sure you wouldn't be too chuffed and simply regard it as "natural justice" if, after one of yours, someone decided to follow you to your destination and push your bike off it's sidestand.


We had been sitting in the left hand lane with our indicators on for well over 10 seconds, and a roundabout was approaching. If it had been a case of her being close behind us creeping past, that would be fine. But she rocketed past out of nowhere, well above the speed limit, and had to slam on the anchors to stop in time for the cars queueing in front of her. There's absolutely no excuse for that sort of driving. I wouldn't call that a 'mistake', I'd call it pure, dangerous idiocy.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 27 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh a lot of my friends were telling me not to bother with bikes.. They all changed their attitudes once they went on my scoot....

quite quick for a scoot aint it they commented Smile

My mum was naturally against me going down the bike route cos my dad almost lost his leg in a low speed accident.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 27 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My parents were the ones that suggested i get a bike. Said i couldnt afford a car or its insurance so i should get a 125!
Was only the missus that wasnt happy about it but she's accepted that ive got it now. Thinks its a phase tho and thinks ill have got rid of it by the time i go to uni Middle Finger
I only get stick about it now cos of the state of my bike:
Its a 21 year old CG - Imagine Very Happy
Still goes tho - did nearly 60 today - down a hill!
Ahhhhh first bike
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PostPosted: 07:47 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad rides, my mum used to ride so neither of them said too much when I told them I was gonna pass my bike test. Mum was a little put off, but she seemed quite relieved after I went out and bought all the proper gear.

My dad did raise an eyebrow when they came back from holiday one day to see a Hayabusa sitting in the garage. I did tell them I didn't go that fast on it, and all was quiet till they saw the gps device stuck on the handlebars with a max speed of 191mph. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

negative feedback Ive had goes like this

Mum: "well, its not you I will worry about but what about the other idiots about?"

Dad: "hmmmmmm.. Im not sure if its such a good idea" (says Mr Ex BSA bantam 175 ridier Shocked )

Mrs's Mum : "I dont know if its such a good idea"

Mrs's Dad : "quickest way to kill yourself!"

Middle Finger to the doubters - Im looking at a 500 tomorrow! Smile


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PostPosted: 14:13 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the "management" ( Twisted Evil ) - "just make sure I know where the life insurance policy is before you go out on that thing"

Confidence in me or what??????? Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both my parents were always against me getting a bike - I heard similar stories already mentioned here, either "it's just too dangerous", or "I know you're very careful but it's the other drivers on the road that could cause an accident, and you'd be the one that comes worse off".
All this from my parents even though my paternal grandfather was a biker, riding an assortment of BSA and Triumphs etc all his life.

My OH and my son are both keen to go pillion, and her family all seem supportive, cos they know I'm pretty level headed anyway Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

has anyone found the more negative comments you get, the more it pushes you to prove everyone wrong? My friends said I was too much of a pussy to ride bikes haha Middle Finger .... Im starting my DAS next week Mr. Green . I've been looking at sports 400's aswell. My mum even suggested I put a deposit down on VFR I showed her. She was dead against me getting a bike before I starting riding!

Just thought of one aswell...when its raining I get..."ahh see!! bet u wish u had a car"... in the summer i'l be the one laughing in the cool breeze when your stuck in tailback traffic for 2 hours... Middle Finger

We got it so much better...

Free parking
Cheap tax
Cheaper fuel costs
No traffic
More fun! (mates once tried to argue you'd have more fun in an escort than on a 125 haha)
Quicker
Safer (In some aspects)
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_G wrote:
negative feedback Ive had goes like this

Mum: "well, its not you I will worry about but what about the other idiots about?"

Thats the one i get the most
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

top reply to "quickest way to die" statement is


"no, theyre second quickest, the first is to get in a car with you"


my g/fs dad hit the roof at that .. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ever since I've been with the GF she has known that I have always wanted a motorcycle, but a car was the logical solution. Therefore she was very encouraging for me doing my DAS and getting a big bike straight away.

My parents, family and friends were a little less enthusiastic, especially when they found out that it was a 750cc Thumbs Up Twisted Evil

My mum see me ride it the other day for the 1st time and freaked when I left for work not wearing my one piece leathers.

The main argument against bikes is that the majority of the population see them as "dangerous" or "unsafe". Surely they are just as safe as a car, you just have to be more aware of other road users as the protection is lacking.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

my mum is totally against bikes.

She doesnt even know im getting one, my dad has an idea so my plan is to show up with it and just not listen to her moan.

I dont know what it is, when anyone moans at me i just want to do it more and more just to get back at them.

My mate at college even asks "does your bike come with a free coffin?" Rolling Eyes yeah that was funny the last 7 times mate.
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

RI_HA wrote:
"does your bike come with a free coffin?"


A donor card more like Wink
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
RI_HA wrote:
"does your bike come with a free coffin?"


A donor card more like Wink


my car licence has one of them.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been biding for a year or so now. I am 40 years old, when I was 17 I wanted a bike and me dad said no way Jose (my name is not Jose), even though he had bikes theoughout his life (a rocker in the 60s).
You did not argue with your parents back then, hie decision was final. I have since regretted all those missed years on 2 wheels.

The thing is, my son will start college in September and wants a scooter, I know how my dad felt!
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

me old chap is as stern as they come. ex copper whos seen it all before. when i had me cg he was all for the cheap transport and thought it was a good idea as a car backup. got er5 tonight and hes shat himself. telling me all about the dangers. i respect his words but can honestly say i feel far safer on the er5 than the cg.
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PostPosted: 01:06 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had a big problem as my both my parents are/were bikers.
At work (was riding before I joined the company) used to have a bloke who would tell me what a nutter I was; but he'd get a lot more injured on the football field than I did falling off the bike!

Rookie wrote:

We had been sitting in the left hand lane with our indicators on for well over 10 seconds, and a roundabout was approaching. If it had been a case of her being close behind us creeping past, that would be fine. But she rocketed past out of nowhere, well above the speed limit, and had to slam on the anchors to stop in time for the cars queueing in front of her. There's absolutely no excuse for that sort of driving. I wouldn't call that a 'mistake', I'd call it pure, dangerous idiocy.

Yes, she may have been wrong to be above the speed limit, but it seems he didn't check his mirrors beore manouvering.
Definitely wrong on his part as well.

Why were you sat in the lane for 10 seconds with indicators on as well?
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PostPosted: 01:34 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your parents can only do so much to deter you from biking. Once you've actually gotten your bike, there's nothing much they can do and i guess they're going to have to live with it. But once you've started telling them the wonderful stories of you and your bike, they're going to see sense and accept it. My rents were apprehensive of me getting a bigger bike, but after a while, they realised it's become an accepted way of life for me and just got on with it. Dad was a biker but only rode less than 250's. There maybe accounts to say that cars are safer than bikes but recent tragic events have told me that it's not always the case and it's just a matter if you've been dealt the wrong hands.
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PostPosted: 07:13 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dazbo666 wrote:
cos they know I'm pretty level headed anyway Twisted Evil


That emoticon added at the end suggests otherwise mate Wink

My mum's against me owning a bike, she shits bricks every time i get on it, my dad's not too concerned cuz he has a theory.

Everyone out here drives like a loon...so the best thing to do is to ride like one and you'll survive Razz

My mum doesn't know about his theory though Whistle
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