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mooseman
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: FAILED!! Reply with quote

Took my test today and failed proper gutted Crying or Very sad

I put my foot down on the U turn and the instructor was a bit of a wanker. He wouldnt give me another go and also told me i failed straight away after o had done it but still made me do the rest of the test.

After wards he said i would have passed if i had not done it!!

Oh well save up now for my next test and few more lessons. I wil fookin do it if it kills me Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky mate. You're definately nowhere near the first person to fail in that way and definately won't be the last.

Good luck for the retest - book it now while you're still motivated Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Re: FAILED!! Reply with quote

If that was your only problem, do you need more lessons?

At least doing the rest of the test is 'good practice' for next time Smile.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

could be worse, i had to do it 5 times to pass.

book it as soon as you can whilst you are fired up.

good luck for next time


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PostPosted: 20:36 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Already have done luckly me dad loves bikes and deperatly wants me to pass so he has booked and paid it for me so i can do a.s.a.p. and then pay him back.

Its in bout 4 and a half weeks time gonna get as many lessons as pos

practice makes perfect.

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PostPosted: 20:45 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky mate

Unfortunately a foot down on the U turn is a fail and the examiner may allow you to repeat the turn but it will NOT count.

I failed 1st time for not over taking a bus that had stopped to let people off right next to the left hand turn that I was about to take.

Shit happens, just learn fro your mistakes and better luck next time Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats unlucky man

Just make sure you dont give up. thats the worst thing possible.

My cousin gave up cause she failed her car test once, wasted a few hundred quid on it and never went back.

Cant wait to do my DAS in the winter, even though it will be a test im looking forward to it, the feeling of passing a test well outweighs the fails. trust me i know.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a fail for everyone, depends on the examiner, some on here have passed with a dab.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Not a fail for everyone, depends on the examiner, some on here have passed with a dab.


Fecking double standards Rolling Eyes

Is it true that they have a 'quota' of pass / fail that they have to adhere to?
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The examiners would say no but I would say that they do. I failed my 2nd test because the examiner said I failed to indicate before going round a roundabout. I know for a fact that I did indicate, but you cannot change the result of a test only get a retest if after challenging the result they decide you may be right. The examiner has far to much power, the more they fail the more money they get for the retests.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its your word against theirs

You are in no position to be testing your own perfomance, therefore an argument at the end is futile Confused

Just have to ride as good as you can in the 1st place and learn from any critism they may have Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 28 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shit!
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My examiner forgot to cancel his indicator after we pulled out from the test centre. Shocked

They aren't perfect !

Still managed to fail me for "inappropriate speed" though (going 25mph in a residential area with cars double parked)
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

gemma1675 wrote:
Still managed to fail me for "inappropriate speed" though (going 25mph in a residential area with cars double parked)


If the limit was 25mph, then as far as im concerned, you're doing nothing wrong by riding at the speed limit. Apparently the speed limit signs mean that speed is a safe speed. But now they want us to ride slower then a given speed sign?

Fair enough, what would have not been an "inappropriate speed" for that area then? 15 mph? 10 mph? 5 mph?

Everyone will have a different opinion, and this is the problem. Every instructor is free to pass and fail people on what THEY think you should have done, and each one is different depending on which instructor you have.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looney wrote:
gemma1675 wrote:
Still managed to fail me for "inappropriate speed" though (going 25mph in a residential area with cars double parked)


If the limit was 25mph, then as far as im concerned, you're doing nothing wrong by riding at the speed limit. Apparently the speed limit signs mean that speed is a safe speed. But now they want us to ride slower then a given speed sign?

Fair enough, what would have not been an "inappropriate speed" for that area then? 15 mph? 10 mph? 5 mph?



The speed limit was 30mph I made a conscious decision to go 25mph as it was residential and there were cars parked on both sides. There wasn't much room. I think 25mph was a responsible speed to ride in the cirumstances. The examiner apparently disagreed. Sad
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

so was u supose 2 go 30mph or less than 25mph? i cant c y they can fail u if u r rideing under 30 in a 30 zone
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

code guru wrote:
so was u supose 2 go 30mph or less than 25mph? i cant c y they can fail u if u r rideing under 30 in a 30 zone


In a 40mph limit you ride at 40, in national speed limit you ride 60-70mph. You have to show the examiner that you are aware of the speed limits and you have the capability to ride at those limits.

However, you are also expected to show restraint if the road will not allow you to ride at the designated speed, ie in traffic or country lanes covered in mud and shit.

As long as you were not holding the flow of traffic and that you were making progress a fail is harsh, it should have been a minor maybe.

Did you consistently ride at 25mph even when there were no double parked cars?
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
code guru wrote:
so was u supose 2 go 30mph or less than 25mph? i cant c y they can fail u if u r rideing under 30 in a 30 zone


In a 40mph limit you ride at 40, in national speed limit you ride 60-70mph. You have to show the examiner that you are aware of the speed limits and you have the capability to ride at those limits.

However, you are also expected to show restraint if the road will not allow you to ride at the designated speed, ie in traffic or country lanes covered in mud and shit.

As long as you were not holding the flow of traffic and that you were making progress a fail is harsh, it should have been a minor maybe.

Did you consistently ride at 25mph even when there were no double parked cars?


Nope, I only went slower than the speed limit where I felt the conditions justified it.

In the feedback session at the end, talking about the speed, he made a comment about this being a test for my full licence and for all he knew I could go out the next day and get a 1000cc bike. Still not sure how that would impact whether my speed was right or wrong?! Did I miss the bit in the highway code where it says your speed within the speed limit is dependent on the road conditions, and how fast your vehicle is? Confused

Seems to me in a test situation we are at the mercy of one person and their mood on the day. It can depend on which examiner you get as to whether you pass or fail. Thumbs Down

without wishing too sound bitter Wink
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Is it true that they have a 'quota' of pass / fail that they have to adhere to?


No.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: bad luck Reply with quote

I am dreading doing the test, CBT and theory - all of it. My brother did his CBT a few months ago and dropped the bike whilst doing the figure of 8. He still passed though.
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Re: bad luck Reply with quote

deb wrote:
I am dreading doing the test, CBT and theory - all of it. My brother did his CBT a few months ago and dropped the bike whilst doing the figure of 8. He still passed though.


I did my DAS test a couple of weeks ago and passed but I did figure of 8 as a practice lesson but I couldn't do it without putting my feet down.
It is very hard to do compared to the U turn. I think they train that because if you can do the figure of 8 u will easily manage the U turn
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

gemma I agree with you about the mood of the instructor affects your result.
Before my test a girl just finished hers she did really well and got no minors but during the U turn she put her foot down. To me I think she should of passed if she was good enough to get all the roundabouts, speed etc correct and then fail on such a small mistake, i personally think its wrong.
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

gemma1675 wrote:
In the feedback session at the end, talking about the speed, he made a comment about this being a test for my full licence and for all he knew I could go out the next day and get a 1000cc bike. Still not sure how that would impact whether my speed was right or wrong?! Did I miss the bit in the highway code where it says your speed within the speed limit is dependent on the road conditions, and how fast your vehicle is?


I was worried about going 70mph on a major A road as the weather was raining and the wind was howling, but fortunately we took a different route.

If we did take the A road, I would have been expected to ride at 70mph, its the only way the examiner knows that you know the speed limit.

The shit talk about going and buying a 1000cc monster after passing is a standard thing. They are just trying to emphasise that they have to be certain that you will be able to handle yourself amongst other road users.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_petty wrote:
To me I think she should of passed if she was good enough to get all the roundabouts, speed etc correct and then fail on such a small mistake, i personally think its wrong.


She failed to control the bike at slow speeds, thats all the dab with the foot is showing the examiner.

Locking the rear wheel during the E stop is another common fault, but again, the theory behind it is safety for you and other road users

To fail is harsh, but learn from it and it will make you a better rider in the long run.....so they say Confused

Worst part of failing is not the cost of a retest but the couple of weeks that you have to wait again before you are eligible to test.
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Re: bad luck Reply with quote

deb wrote:
I am dreading doing the test, CBT and theory - all of it. My brother did his CBT a few months ago and dropped the bike whilst doing the figure of 8. He still passed though.

when i did my cbt last year there woz 2 girls both first time me my first time and some other guy 2nd time he passed the 1st time but u have 2 do it every 2 years, anyway the 2 girls whent out on the road first and some how one off the girls managed some how 2 drive up 2 someones driveway and hit the wall some how and broke the little ball the the left brake leaver and she still passed Shocked Shocked
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