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PostPosted: 15:10 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki I think just the point is (thats been blown out of proportion now Laughing ) is that you dont have to change a single shred about your opinion, but perhaps present in a way which isnt contstrued as being a direct jab at someone Wink

As you posted afterwards you meant nothing by it, however at the time I was somewhat insulted. Its just how things come out in text mate dw bout it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not worried about it! Razz

But whilst you're on the subject of what people find insulting, what would your girlfriend think if she'd read your first 3 options? Confused

That isn't intended as a jab at you, but an honest question.

Anyway, you decided what you're going to do yet? Smile
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

to a certain extent you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Best thing to do is to tell her straight, imho.



If not you will be depressed by not sl;eeping around and statying with her.

Or you will break up , sleep around , and then be depressed cause you miss her and realise it wasn't worth splitting up with her for.


Such is life.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:


OR you can go fuck some chick, but once you've cum basically you'll think "wtf have I done".


spot on

and id agree that suzuki can sometimes be a bit too blunt with his opinions and he could often soften them up a bit first if he took the time. but maybe he doesnt want to i suppose.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

innominate wrote:

If not you will be depressed by not sl;eeping around and statying with her.

Or you will break up , sleep around , and then be depressed cause you miss her and realise it wasn't worth splitting up with her for.




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PostPosted: 21:33 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really just echoing what has already been said.



If you decide to cheat on your girlfriend she will find out one way or another, either you'll crack and tell her or she'll find out another way.
If you decide to 'take a break' you will never feel the same with her afterwards - and the likelihood is that you'll feel guilty and uncomfortable.

And unfortunately, no matter who you sleep with and whether you think you know 'where they've been' (to put it bluntly) you are still putting yourself at risk of infection - imagine trying to explain to your girlfriend why she may need to be treated or tested for [*...insert STI here]

For killa's benefit I am not trying to patronise, just offering another situation that Runaway could find himself in and needs to consider (which I'm sure he probably already has...).



Babyyam was spot on with her post, it really is difficult to find someone with whom you are comfortable, have good fun with and who you enjoy after such a long time.

Lust is what you're lacking - go for the month without sex thing, I seem to remember reading it in Cosmopoliton some time ago whilst waiting for a doctor's appointment. Wink
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you do the month without sex thing, let her know its a plan to make things good, otherwise she will be sad because you dont want to have sex with her anymore.

i tend to think regular sex holds things together tho and any long gaps can be a bit dangerous.

for getting lust back, id try booking ahead of time an hour or two where u can just focus on each other and its agreed, so its not rushed, and you do slow massages and take your time and relax

of course if she doesnt fancy doing this, it aint gonna work

If you just want to get it out of your system and cheat once, you could get away with it but you would need to be careful about not leaving tracks. The slightest clue could get you rumbled. You will feel wierd with her after for a bit but you will then probably have got it out of your system. However keeping something going on the side for any length of time is probably asking for trouble.

The one time cheat get it out of your system could actually save ur relationship because you will realise what you have is worth more (aslong as you dont get caught).

but for all i know maybe there is a nicer girl around the corner
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLINWALL wrote:


If you just want to get it out of your system and cheat once, you could get away with it but you would need to be careful about not leaving tracks. The slightest clue could get you rumbled. You will feel wierd with her after for a bit but you will then probably have got it out of your system. However keeping something going on the side for any length of time is probably asking for trouble.

The one time cheat get it out of your system could actually save ur relationship because you will realise what you have is worth more (aslong as you dont get caught).

but for all i know maybe there is a nicer girl around the corner


What?! Just...wtf?!
I'm fully aware you're entitled to your opinion, but don't go advising him to cheat! That is NEVER the answer. That is embracing dishonesty, and in a loving relationship there should be no place for other people, nor lies. You don't 'get it out your system'. Encouraging such behaviour isn't applaudable.
I'm tempted to really kick off, but it's not worth it. You have your views, I have mine. Just, guys like you make girls like me REALLY hate men, 'oh its ok to cheat, just so long as she doesn't find out.'
Meh. How selfish.
*gently simmers in the corner*
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is not my real name, who is colin wall
any real persons called colin wall are in no way related to the person with the online username colin wall

ok so girl logic means he should end it and then find someone new, but what if he really loves her but has an itch. he just needs to scratch the itch and they will be fine again.

I dont know maybe he should find someone new but if she loves him thats gonna be tough on her especially if hes not sure if he wants to dump her.

oh its all so tricky but all is fair and love and war because there is a lot at stake.

thnx for containing your rage tho liz

i might have to stop voicing controversial views tho as i see it could get me in trouble. weathers turning out nice isnt it.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLINWALL wrote:

thnx for containing your rage tho liz


That's OK, didn't want to throw a *huge* wobbler....
However, I'm sure lots of epole get 'itches' as you call them...ever had an itchy arse somewhere in public? That you can't scratch because everyone'll think you're a big hobo with smelly fingers? That's kinda how that it. Itches go away, I'm sure. Either way, shagging someone else isn't the answer. The truth always comes out one way or another, and it'll hurt much more if she found it something was kept from her. Honesty above everything in a relationship is what I believe. When you start lying, it might as well be dead. When you lie AND start shaggig other people, is there any point at all anymore? Smile
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLINWALL wrote:



i might have to stop voicing controversial views tho as i see it could get me in trouble. weathers turning out nice isnt it.


Bah. Long as you can back em up with a good argument sod it.

I hate gypos and queens. Grrrrrrrrr.

Now anyway, as for cheating.

The main point is, if you cheat, even a little bit, it smacks everything into focus.

This easter i was worried id cheat, i was getting worked up about my 'plans' i seemed to be subconciously making with girls. And then i got absolutely steamed in a club and ended up getting pulled... And then i went into horny overdrive. It was so retarded i cant believe it.

Anyway didnt go home with anyone, but purely cos of circumstances.

The next day the gf asked if i was ok, and as id been having the itch and generally feeling abit claustrophobic i just sorta couldnt give an honest answer. In the end i had to break up with her, even tho id hoped easter would be my make or break space, i could leave her hanging on. Would be fair to her or me.

And then today its just sucked so much because i have 4 girls lined up back home (in theory), but this girl up here is so great. I just cant hack relationships.

Both of us would gladly go out again, but i just have to see the other side of the coin. It sucks, but the last couple of nights i went out as a single bloke again, i had so much fun.

No worries what i was percieved as doing, no worries about what she or her mates might think.

To give the best analogy ive found. While i was with her it was like a huge red button saying 'do not push', which made it all the more enticing.

Now the do not push is removed, and its just a big old button. Dull as fuck.

But im so much happier generally.

Women will never understand this. Ive tried being honest with thus, and i can tell its like 'you what, i thought we'd have kids you cunt' type stuff. But thats women for you. They can turn off there sex drive, men cant (or at least not without A LOT to lose).

Women will never understand how completely different we are when all the blood migrates south. Bastard instincts.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Women will never understand how completely different we are when all the blood migrates south. Bastard instincts.
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So how come (pardon the pun) some men can keep their dicks in their trousers when the urge arises and some keep their brains in their dicks?

Not all men are bastards?
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

it boils down to that we are programmed to spread as much seed as we can and maybe also raised a family which we look after and raise those kids, or maybe we are programmed to be in a relationship as long as it wd take for a kid to grow to an age where the mother could provide for it herself

women are programmed to have a rich husband protector who looks after them and to get the best genes from the hunky bloke who is shagging everyones wife

of course self restraint and decency stop a lot of people acting on their baser instincts but they are still there underneath

men have the potential to produce more offspring than women if they can put it about enough, as women can only produce a kid onece every 9 months

obviously things are a bit different now but our biological programming is still there
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sticky wrote:


So how come (pardon the pun) some men can keep their dicks in their trousers when the urge arises and some keep their brains in their dicks?

Not all men are bastards?


Some men suppress their natural instincts and dont look after their own interests.

Some men will marry a woman who already has kids and he will provide for them, but this means he will have less to provide for his kids.

So his type wont be so well represented in the gene pool because the bastard will have fathered all the kids nice guy is looking after, and bastard will go off fathering more kids.

Obviously the csa means that men dont really want to sow wild oats that grow into expensive kids, but the urge to shag around is still there.

On the other hand, the nice guys may get more success by compromise and self sacrifice with with their women. However if he is a nice guy and she is a bitch, she will just take advantage.

this is why bastards go for vunerable women, and bitches go for soft gits

in an ideal world there would be relationships of equals, but as its always better to have the upper hand, some people will always try to get a slightly better deal out of it.

sometimes u are the statue and sometimes you are the pigeon. everyone is trying to be the pigeon so they dont have to be the statue (except the soft gits/vunerable women who just want to be nice).

i have a feeling this was another post that wasnt a good idea for my public image but it doesnt really matter.

There was a hospital in england where they decided to do paternity tests on all the babies but they had to stop because of all the trouble it caused.

I cant remember the exact figures, but in this country, about 1 in 3 or maybe 1 in 4 kids have a different father to who they think is their father.

Because its not just men who are naughty. Women get pregnant by one man and get another man to provide for them.

in this link is details of various studies

https://www.childsupportanalysis.co.uk/analysis_and_opinion/choices_and_behaviours/misattributed_paternity.htm

one of which is for new york

Non-paternity rates from paternity testing laboratories
U.S. (New York City), black: 30%.
U.S. (New York City), white: 34%
so its the white women who are naughtiest

other surveys vary between 5% and 30% incidence of 'cuckoldry'

and heres an interesting bit

"Some men ... have a higher chance of being deceived than others -- and it is those of low wealth and status who fare worst."

"Actual figures range from 1 percent in high-status areas of the United States and Switzerland, to 5 to 6 percent for moderate-status males in the United States and Great Britain, to 10 to 30 percent for lower-status males in the United States, Great Britain and France. Moreover, the men most likely to sexually hoodwink the lower-status males are men of higher status."

so i better get me some status by the time i want kids or im fucked
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:
For killa's benefit I am not trying to patronise, just offering another situation that Runaway could find himself in and needs to consider (which I'm sure he probably already has


I understand your post, you answer as if this guy might be alright and he can make his own decisions in the end.
Jon’s post made the guy sound liked he’d made up his mind or that in the end he will fuc* it up with her anyway
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Sticky says it spot on. Some men can keep it in their pants quite easily. All men are not cheaters. Sure the moment can arise where you get the opportunity to cheat, but surely men are disciplined enough to ignore it and value what they have with that special somebody back home.
Same as women. Not all women cheat, and we sure as hell do not all want a litter of sprogs either. Saying that all men want is sex, and all women want is a family due to the natural instincts is a load of rubbish Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its about values I suppose................luckily I'm with a saint who holds old fashioned values pretty close to heart, much the same as me.

Also depends on whether you've had it done to you (Cheated on) that is.....makes the world of difference to how you view it.

Colinwall you make some interesting (and funny!) points, sort that status out!

Not all women want a load of kids, I fell with my daughter by sheer surprise, she was never planned, I didnt want kids! - but she is the light of my life and I wouldnt be without her, but I dont want anymore LOL!!!

Men want other things besides sex but the sad thing is most of them can't admit it to themselves let alone someone else! Its all about appearing like a "man"!!! Real men are honest with themselves and are far more attractive by being soppy!
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bastards can be soppy too, they just want it on their terms

its like when u have a pet u are soppy with it but know u are the boss

i have ambitions of being a bastard but really im a soft git
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLINWALL wrote:
If you just want to get it out of your system and cheat once, you could get away with it but you would need to be careful about not leaving tracks.



Once a cheat, always a cheat.

If you are the kind of person that won't feel guilty or odd about it then you'll more than likely try again... Then you will get caught out because you'll get sloppy.

If you're likely to feel guilty or awkward then your relationship will never have the same cosy feeling again - and your girlfriend will pick up on that and want to know what it wrong.

Cheating is the slippery slope to hurting someone far more than if you had just broken up with them.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:
Once a cheat, always a cheat


Coming from experience?

Or just a guess?
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
Coming from experience?




From experience my dear.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never given it thought until recently, 5 years and the idea never even occurred to me, see some fit ladies walking down the road I wouldnt have even noticed them.

But I am noticing them now... Shocked

And my first real true love cheated on me @ 13 months. Then dumped me. Wow that felt so terrible. Neutral Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Runaway987 wrote:


And my first real true love cheated on me @ 13 months. Then dumped me. Wow that felt so terrible. Neutral Thumbs Down


Just remember how that felt every time you think about cheating Thumbs Up Stings doesn't it? Hurts a lot than just being dumped... somehow.

What you need to do is think about every possibility.
What would happen for each possible course of action and how you think that would make you feel, and take the path you feel would make you the happiest.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="AnnabellaI] If you are the kind of person that won't feel guilty [/quote]

Hmm I remember something about that , being incapable of feeling guilt apparently makes you some sort of psychopath.
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