1000 for 750?

[anders]

I have the Gixer 1000 K5 model, nice bike and everything, just seems like a bit too much power for my use, I like it and great looking but when I did use it on the track late last year I didn't feel it was the bike for me on track, nor did I feel I was using it to its full ability.

I have heard and ridden the gixer 750s ranging from the older 2000 models to the present model (K6), and the things I have heard from others and reviews are brilliant!

So should I now chop my 2005 GSX-R1000 K5 for a brand new K6 750?

Is it worth it? put depreciation aside.

I would like to do more track days next year, I liked the Brands Hatch circuit, though have yet to try the full GP circuit, maybe next year.

I am quite an able rider and can use a bike, just feel the thou has too much power for my needs, and *can* be dangerous at times, I am sure those who have owned or ridden the bike will know what I mean.

What are your thoughts and what would you do, I don't minding keeping the thousand and doing some training courses on the track if they allow one to use their own bike.

Is there a place that will lend me a 750 K6 for the track for a day, that way I can compare the two head to head?

Keep it real.
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[hairychipstic...]

have the k6 1000 myself and i know what u mean
i wouldnt say its scary, but u really have to be careful in non perfect conditions and such
i had the k5 600 before hand and it was a much simpler concept, u cud get away with less careful throttle openings and didnt have to be quite so aware focused on not gettin lobbed!
i think the 1000 is a great road bike, if totally unusable
for the track id seriously be looking at a 600 or 750 tho
600 is definitely more fun due to being more usable on the track
so if u do lots of trackdays i wud say why not like
u can always go back to the 1000 in a few years if its doesnt work out

[anders]

Hi,

Thanks, I will see what the dealer has to offer against my bike and see if its worth it.

Was contemplating getting a second hand 600 maybe k1 or k2 but I just don't trust second had bikes or cars, always go for new.

Will let everyone know!
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[G]

If I wanted a 'do everything' (apart from racing, but trackdays) bike and I didn't care about my licence, I'd go for a GSXR750 I reckon.
A 750 should be able to easily enough keep up with most 1000s on track without much difficulty and can often be faster with the same rider as you can use the power more.

I definitely prefer a bit less power for pushing it on track; and on the road you have to be going ridiculously fast on a thousand ceecee bike to feel like you're using it a bit.

Seeing the number of recalls there are for new models, often for serious safety issues, I'd tend to trust second hand more (and that you don't use a lot of money to not really get that much - that's an awful lot of trackdays difference in money ).

Could be worth considering a track 600 with day time MOT; so you get a properly sorted bike for thrashing. However I'd prefer to go for a standard tuned 750 than a tuned 600 which needs more regular rebuilds, etc.

If you look around, you can probably find somewhere that rents GSXR750s - they normally have a daily rate.

[anders]

G,

Thanks for your comments, I trust what you have to say.

I am now considering a used 750 maybe a 2003 model, and sticking on some track fairings, I have a big 4 by 4 so can use that and get a trailer.

I had a few test rides on the 750 and found it great, handling was much better than my thou!

I will let you know how I get on, is it recommended that I look for a ready made track bike, with WoW etc? or shall I buy a stock 750 and obtain race fairings etc? Not too bothered about paintwork or looks, just want it to be track worthy, run well and a straight bike.

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[G]

There aren't as many track-ready 750s for sale as the racing class isn't that popular (I know a few clubs do still have a class that they can be competitive in, but most just go for the thousands).
If you can, I would go for a track ready one; this will probably get you better suspension etc as well as the wets on wheels. This would be a relatively cheaper option and save some of the work in converting (even just fitting track fairings can be a pain, never mind fork internals etc. Though, while it is nice to have sorted suspension, a reasonable rider wouldn't be at the back of a race grid with it, never mind on a trackday.

If you're going the road bike route, consider getting some scratched road fairings, rather than dedicated track fairings.

No reason you can't ride a bike to tracks with track fairings providing it's not dark while you're travelling, but of course it's nice to have a big pile of spares, wets etc, to make sure you get the best 'use' from the trackday .

[BLOFLY 636]

ahhh theres an interesting point I am looking at getting a k5 gsxr 1000 and using it for both road and track but if your oppinion is they can be a bit savage on the track then perhaps I need to lower my aim to a 750 or new 600, I had an 04 636 and found that awesome and friendly enough to ride it hard and push it wide under thottle on the track but only if I could keep the revs up nice and high coming into the corners where I worried about losing the back in a slide just as much as I worried the rear would light up coming out of the corner under wide open throttle in second but found the bike was happy to handle my rock ape technique of brake turn and twist the throttle open hard again!
The only thing I didn't like about the 636 was the top speed.
Up to 160-180kmph it was great but once I got past there power seemed to be sapped away by the strong wind blast where as the new 1000's can push on regardless of how much wind there is trying to slow you down.
Maybe the 750 would give you a bit more zing in the seat but remain more tractable than the full litre bike hey?
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[MarkyPancake]

Good posts in here.

I'm thinking of going for a K5 GSX-R1000 after my 2004 R1, but have also been looking at the K6 750 as I like the styling. I wouldn't be changing until next year at the earliest, so it allows some more time for the bikes to drop in price.

[Skub]

I'd want a maximum of a 600 on a track,but I'd miss the grunt of a thou on the road.