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yorkshirelad3
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 03 Nov 2005    Post subject: A specific Wheelie thread Reply with quote

Right, iv tried and tried to clutch wheelie but i just cant seem to get it right,

My bike wieghs 150k, im about 90k myself and the bike has 14.6 break horse. Now i know it wont power wheelie, but it should clutch wheelie.

However, can someone post the procedure? My bike redlines at 11'000 if thats anyhelp for setting out where i should rev to.

Any more info i can give then i will. Any help is very much appriciated.

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PostPosted: 23:59 - 03 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:01 - 04 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

aim for 10,000 revs. then dump the clutch it will come up very fast so be ready.


ps like any stunt it can go wrong so have the bank book ready Wink


happy wheeling Mr. Green Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 10:58 - 04 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers, its a little wet outside so i dont think i will try today
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 04 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to try a wheelie at some point.

I am thinking its mby not a good idea on the FJR as its a bit big.
Are wheelies on heavy bikes a lot more difficult? (ie more likely to land heavily into a tank slapper or some such)


+ my bike is really long, I am guessing this would make it a lot more difficult to wheelie.

Closest I have been is to have the front steering go when accelerating onto a motorway, front mby just left the floor, or at least very close too it.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 04 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone said a while ago that no one would be able to wheelie a 33bhp r6, how wrong they were. So unless it's someone you trust whos giving you the advice, don't listen! Wink
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 04 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Innominate, your bike is going to be a total bitch to wheelie, you'll do damn well to keep that up and get a decent landing.

Yorkshirelad, just gradually increase the revs, sit upright, and be ready on the back brake. Start at about 8k, then gradually increase the revs by about 500 each time.

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PostPosted: 07:17 - 05 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

When bringing the bike back down keep the revs up. Stops it from slamming down so hard.
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack_Cheese wrote:
Innominate, your bike is going to be a total bitch to wheelie, you'll do damn well to keep that up and get a decent landing.

Yorkshirelad, just gradually increase the revs, sit upright, and be ready on the back brake. Start at about 8k, then gradually increase the revs by about 500 each time.

Jack


Reviving an old thread.

BUT.....

I managed it.
YEY


Just have to crack the throttle right open at 10mph in first, comes straight up, sometimes.

Tends to land a bit heavily though...
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

innominate wrote:

Reviving an old thread.

BUT.....

I managed it.
YEY


Just have to crack the throttle right open at 10mph in first, comes straight up, sometimes.

Tends to land a bit heavily though...


Are you snapping the throttle closed?
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably.

I want some crash bungs & a specific area to practice before I try and refine my technique.


Panels are quite expensive for the FJR & I can see myself dropping it at some point.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just make sure your little tyres are warmed up enough.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

its also so easy when you pull the throttle back and it comes up Laughing .
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a sports bike? and at 14.6hp I think you got pretty much no chance... I been trying for ages on my RS 125 which is full power, about 36hp ( I think.. ) and it just dosnt want to stay up, it just dies no matter what I do, I tried slipping it with the front will in the air and didnt do anything, I tried different speeds.

I can pop the front but only about a foot or so high then its back down.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

GearboxGeezer wrote:
my RS 125 which is full power, about 36hp .


Laughing Laughing Laughing I don't think so Wink

I used to be able to wheelie my old 50, so if I can do it on a 50 you can do it on a 125. Oh and by the way it's a Hyosung Comet he's trying it on.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hyosong comet easy to wheely, let me have a go Laughing

try bouncing it a bit using the back break, dab the brake gently then as you release the pressure on brake clutch it up.... try it standing staggered (left foot on back peg) to get some more weight over back wheel... I've often seen the little comet 125's to be a good stunt bike. look like a mini sv650 Cool
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

GearboxGeezer wrote:
Is it a sports bike? and at 14.6hp I think you got pretty much no chance... I been trying for ages on my RS 125 which is full power, about 36hp ( I think.. ) and it just dosnt want to stay up, it just dies no matter what I do, I tried slipping it with the front will in the air and didnt do anything, I tried different speeds.

I can pop the front but only about a foot or so high then its back down.


Get to the balance point and it'll stay up.

Sparks you're lookin a lot better at the wheelies now. Where's the ktm?
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can wheelie any bike i can wheelie my peds with ease and they dont power wheelie or have a clutch to slip just sit right on the back and rev and up pops the front, so a 14.6 bhp geared bike should be "easy" to wheelie, my m8 could wheelie both his rs 50 and derbi gprr 50 until he binned them both lol
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
Sparks you're lookin a lot better at the wheelies now. Where's the ktm?


Got rid of that last year when I got serious about stunting.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sparks! wrote:
hyosong comet easy to wheely, let me have a go

Some how I doubt they wheelie easy for someone new to stunts.

Mini SV650 that weighs similar to the fullsize SV which has 5x the power doesn't add up to a great begginer wheely bike.

Personally, I reckon best bet is to give up and wait 'till you get a more sensible bike for stunts.

Snuff - peds have their engine on the swingarm and weigh a lot less, stick a motorcycle engine on the swing arm and it'd probably wheelie easy.
I've seen people wheelie a ped just with weight pretty much, so they don't really compare to real bikes.
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

open the throttle when its coming down, you'll get a softer landing as the power from the engine will slow the descent of the front end. I can image the fork seals on it aren't liking you much...

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PostPosted: 12:04 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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try bouncing it a bit using the back break, dab the brake gently then as you release the pressure on brake clutch it up....


I went to a wheelie school a few years ago and thats the technique he was teaching. You can get any bike to wheelie if you incorporate boucing it up with the back brake then clutching it
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sparks! wrote:
hyosong comet easy to wheely, let me have a go

Some how I doubt they wheelie easy for someone new to stunts.

Mini SV650 that weighs similar to the fullsize SV which has 5x the power doesn't add up to a great begginer wheely bike.
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I disagree there a bit.. learning on a 125 is a good thing I reckon if you stick at it.. if you can wheely a 125 well then bigger bikes will be a piece of piss to do... the comet is a lot smaller than an SV and I doubt its even remotely as heavy..

friend of mine has a MZ125 and he asked me to teach him to wheelie it.. I never thought he'd even get it up to be honest Laughing he only done his CBT a short while back, but he managed it and with practice could be quite good on it despite it being a MZ version of the CG125!

I think a comet would come up easily with the right technique and if someone new to wheelying learnt that technique on a bike that required it then I don't think it'd be too much harder to learn on that a bigger bike Smile as you're learning technique and skill and not relying on having power.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark wrote:
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try bouncing it a bit using the back break, dab the brake gently then as you release the pressure on brake clutch it up....


I went to a wheelie school a few years ago and thats the technique he was teaching. You can get any bike to wheelie if you incorporate boucing it up with the back brake then clutching it


Yeah but you gotta be a bit careful with it.. I only use it when doing slow wheelies so I can get it verticalish within a couple of meters of run up .. if you start doing it at various speeds etc it can bounce the bike up quite high quite quick if you get the technique right. I.e fine to use it on a comet 125 but id be a bit careful using it on an R1 when learning Wink

What school taught you that? was it the jimmy fireblade one?
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely agree Sparks! I used that technique on a ZX7R because it was a bitch to get up otherwise.

I just clutch up my ZX10R in first or second from low speed, or if i'm feeling lazy a long power wheelie is fairly easy with this much horsepower.

Yeah, it was Jimmy Fireblades wheelie school over at East Kirkby, had a damn good day. Although did it on my own bike, which meant i didn't have the luxury of the tilt switch that cuts the motor if you get too high that was fitted on the schools bandits.

I'm thinking of hanving another go one day, but using Jimmy's bikes
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