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PostPosted: 12:06 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Any bike instructors hang around here? Reply with quote

I'm thinking of chamging career and was wondering how to go about being a motorcycle instructor.

I imagine its a very rewarding job and i enjoy riding bikes, but haven't got a clue about how people become bike instructors.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

most instructors i know/heard of have another job as well. Doesnt really pay enough to be your only income afaik.
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm i was afraid of that

Found this though and have emailed them a few questions

https://www.bsm.co.uk/rt/become_a_motorcycle_instructor/index.html
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you go train at Carringdon , then get pissly poor paid unless you own the school which trains people,

that said all the anti bike government / EU initiatives might make this an even worse profession.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugger, i'm sick of working in IT and wouldn't mind working in the motorcycle industry somehow.

I will be able to afford a pay cut soon but not a huge one Sad
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also it will depend on if its a bike rich community. Where i live bikes arent all that common, and when i talked to my instructor during my CBT he said sometimes he wouldent get any lessons for weeks, and that he was going to have to take up another job alongside the instruction.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd also add that jumping into this means you once again enter the nigh unescapable paradox:

ie no experience = no job

Which is possibly the most frustrating mind bending psychosis inducing state to be in (I've been stuck in this for years)

And I'd reckon you'd probably have to work for somebody else before starting up , and then build up a reputation
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: Any bike instructors hang around here? Reply with quote

Dark wrote:
I'm thinking of chamging career and was wondering how to go about being a motorcycle instructor.

I imagine its a very rewarding job and i enjoy riding bikes, but haven't got a clue about how people become bike instructors.


If you click the 2nd link in my sig and go to "survival skills",there are instructors there.Horse and Spin Doctor are two.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also it will depend on if its a bike rich community. Where i live bikes arent all that common, and when i talked to my instructor during my CBT he said sometimes he wouldent get any lessons for weeks, and that he was going to have to take up another job alongside the instruction.


I live in Lincolnshire and there seems to be hundreds of bikes out during the summer, bikes have always been popular around here.

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I'd also add that jumping into this means you once again enter the nigh unescapable paradox:

ie no experience = no job


Yeah, i did think about that too and i'm prepared to work for someone else for a while. In fact, i would quite happily work for someone if liked the way they worked.

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If you click the 2nd link in my sig and go to "survival skills",there are instructors there.Horse and Spin Doctor are two.


Thanks Itchy, do you know if they post on here at all?
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks Itchy, do you know if they post on here at all?


Skub,you mean? Mr. Green

I dunno,Dark,but you'll be welcome in survival skills,they have years of experience to share.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shit, sorry Skub Embarassed

Getting involved in too many threads today!
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ayup Dark ? Whereabouts in Lincolnshire r u ?

I work "part-time" for a school in Grantham....as all the others have said there is no money in it not as an employee anyway...

First requirement is that you have held a FULL (not restricted) license for at least 3 years.. PM me if ya want to know anymore m8
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi MaSh, I'm in Tattershall mate.

Thats a real shame, you guys play a vital role in the bike community and its sad to here you don't get paid well for it.

I think thats knocked my idea of becoming a motorcycle instructor full time out of the window i'm afraid.

I have held my licence for 13 years, thats not the problem, paying for a year old ZX10R is though Smile
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: dont go to BSM Reply with quote

Dont waste your time and money going to BSM, I HAVE A GUY LOOKING TO DO THE SAME AS YOU but he did get in touch with me as well to compare reality and BSMs out look on it.

BSM want £1250 for a 6 day course which compared to the average DAS fee is not to bad, average being £500 for 5 day course that said i honestly dont think many people can learn the JOB or the CBT work in such a short time frame then there is the DAS work to think about.

My own instructors course is spread out over a couple of months and only when i think some one is up to it i send them to Cardington for the assesment, you only get 2 goes at it in any 12 month period, if you do not meet the standard then its good by to £1250 quid and a long wait to attend again.

No the pays is not great, yes my wife works full time so if i was not busy the bills get paid and yes the rewards in other ways are great but they dont pay the bills or feed the kids.

That said its the best thing i ever did starting my own bike school Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 13 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can defenately confirm, bsm are DIRE as far as teaching instructors, at least as far as car instructors go, can only assume their crapness extends to the bikes..

Only interesting in the cashola i'm affraid Thumbs Down


It seems like a cool profession but.. if you tell somebody not to ride into that tree, and they do, then thats it.. its alot of responsibility, i'm sure its hugely rewarding allot of the time though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 14 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice Biketeacherdave. This is definitely something i'd like to try, but i think i'm going to have to wait until i'm more finacially secure.

Job satisfaction is something i'm going to be looking for, money won't matter too much as long as i can pay the bills with what i earn.

I used to work in a bike training school when i was a teenager, just working behind the desk taking bookings, answering the phone and cleaning the bikes etc

I used to hang out with the intructors after their shifts and they enjoyed their job 100%. I think that is quite rare in the world these days!!
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 14 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It seems like a cool profession but.. if you tell somebody not to ride into that tree, and they do, then thats it.. its alot of responsibility, i'm sure its hugely rewarding allot of the time though


I agree, i think there is a hell of a lot of responsibility involved, but i think the rewarding nature of the job will far out weigh that.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 14 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark wrote:

I used to hang out with the intructors after their shifts and they enjoyed their job 100%. I think that is quite rare in the world these days!!


I think it must be pretty risky too much more so than normal riding not that I'm discouraging you or anything but you have to use your eyes for your own bike and watch the other riders in your posse and tell them what they are doing wrong

You get some schools round here that really cram students in max I'd say is one instructor to two students (which was what I did but then I did DAS in the winter when nobody wanted to learn). 4-5 learners with one instructor don't know the legality of this.

but I remember riding into work one day and seeing 3 ER5s and 2 GS500Es on the side of the road parked up and me thinking it was weird since all of them had L plates and a really badly smashed up Pan in the middle of the road.

that said there are profit maximisers everywhere who risk this sort of stuff due to greed.
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