Old Biker with Teenage son

blackmaxger · L Plate Warrior Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Karma :

Hello all
I am a older biker and ride vmax.
My eldest son has just turned 17 and is after a 125, I have persuaded him not to go for an aprillia Thumbs Down

(cos there crap and unreliable) Shocked

Before you all write in saying aprillia are good, im sure if you own one you do think there good.
We have been looking at CBR & NSR 125s and I think he likes the look of the NSR
I know nothing of these small bikes and would like some info, but I don't want any Bull, I am sure we all think our bikes are the best and there is not anther to compare to it, I do about my Vmax (but thats because there is nothing to compare to it) Very Happy

The questions I want answered are,
What am I looking for when I go to buy one
When was the last year they were made.
Is it a reliable machine.
What Prices should I expect to pay.
I would also like to know some general spec's of the bike (I don't even know if its a two stroke or a four stroke engine)
Cheers Gerry

quacker_boy · Cuddle Bitch Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Karma :

NSR's are 2 strokes Gerry.

I've never ridden and would never DREAM of owning one, they're two stroke and two strokes should be ridden OFF road not on it!

I just don't like them, i'm 17 and if i was living in the UK i'd rather pick up a VFR 400 NC24 or a ZXR400 and have it 33 bhp restricted.

Please whatever you decide to get him, for the love of god get him full leathers, the results are quite nasty otherwise Sick

Regards,

Chris
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mr.z · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Karma :

Its a 2stroke

Its the more reliable of the 1252strokes (the sporty ones anyways) i think they stopped them in 2002?ish..

They make about 28bhp or so dcerestricted, restricted they should do 70/80ish (with some effort maybe)

Prices depend on the year, i'd get an older one with a recent rebuild becuase its likely to get dropped/scratched ..

Welcome to the forum btw Thumbs Up

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

The CBR is underpowered and at the moment overpriced.

Like most bikes, a well looked after NSR will be reliable.
Make a good day to day bike that can also be used for fun.

Can't think of any specific stuff to look for, just all the general stuff.

snuff2005 · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Karma :

my m8 recently had a nsr 125 2002 model untill it was stolen but in the short time he had it he had no problems with it and considering it was his 1st ever bike he took to the bike like a duck to water, ive had the pleasure of riding a few times and they seam like realy nice bikes im 6" 4 and found it comfy and it was realy fast (compared to my ped)
and it is a honda so as the biker folk laws state "its reliable", nothing rong with 2 strokes jsut keep them well looked after.

my lil mbk scooter has nearly 14,000 miles on the clock but ive looked after it some of my mates peds dint even get to 7000 miles befor they fucked up
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GearboxGeezer · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Karma :

How many Aprilias have you owned?

Ive had mine for along time, Ive cleaned the Power Vaulve out once, took me a couple of hours. And my worst problem was I kept blowing indicator relays, but I later learned that this was because of my Micron arrow indicators and somtimes they need a special relay.

Ive beaten My friends NSR, I beaten a mito which was a well cool race threw some twisties, I didnt even no him but he was a better rider than me, or at least more mental as he was really taking the courners flat out.

Im 10,000km in and my bike shows no problems of needing a rebuild, But ill probably just stick a new piston in, another couple of hours in the shed and then itll be back on the road.

Use good oil, warm it up, I still thrash mine on the roads pretty much every ride.

The only regret I have with it is I cant go off road.

tatters · Exxon Valdez Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Karma :

Go for a 1994+ NSR125R great machines, my 1998 model was the most reilable bike l,ve every owned l sold it on with 36k on the clocks and it was still on its first piston never let me down but they have to be cared for (Castol TTS fully sysfentic oil, always warmed up before riding, gearbox oil change every 3,000).
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blackmaxger · L Plate Warrior Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Karma :

Dear Gearboxgeezer never have owned one but seen a few dead on the side of the road, the fact that you and quote

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minesweeper · Whoah there! Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Owned a 2002nsr Black/silver.
Decent enough start to biking, not bad performance once derestricted and handle fine enough.
As its a 2 stroke it does require constant refilling of oil (every 500-600miles)
If hes the type that keep a beautifaly tidy bedroom and can be drilled to maintain it then an nsr125 would be a good stepping stone.

Matty

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Skub · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Karma :

Because the age group using 125 strokers,you'll need to be choosy.

How many first time bikers do you know that know how to look after their bikes properly? I for one was a clueless twat.

The little strokers can be reliable enough if looked after,but getting one without inheriting problems will take time.
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Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

Nothign wrong with 2 strokes! quacker_boy was way off the mark there. They're fine on the road.

I have a biking father, he got me a 125 MZ 2 stroke. Not as much power as these plastic 125 missiles. Served me beautifully.

Personally I'd limit my budget to around £700 max. Maybe a CG125, perfect bikes. There's no point spending lots of money on a 125, even if it's not crashed/dropped/stolen it won't be kept for very long.

Gaz

palmer · Fiddled Kiddy Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Karma :

Have you thought about getting a Dt125 (or the like) for his first bike?

Much better to learn on, plus less damage if he falls.

Blunet600 · Nearly there... Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Karma :

lol i love it when people say that peolep dont keep 125's for very long. i am planning to keep my nsr for a good 4 - 5 years. lol. About the time it takes for me to get enough to get another bike. plus i love my nsr. had no problems with it so far, but then again its only done liek 4,500 miles. only paid 1800 for it with 2,500 miles on it.

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Paul@125power · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Karma :

CBR125R
I have one that is 2005
they still get made
4 stroke, less maintainence and cost than a 2T
13BHP @ 10000rpm
10.1Nm @ 8000rpm
115KG (dry weight)
Bought mine brand NEW for £2800!!!

I deal for a learner or young rider! End of!
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derbisenda16 · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Karma :

Show your son the Derbi GPR racer and see what he thinks. www.derbi.com and www.derbi-club.com

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Paul@125power · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Karma :

True Blue · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Karma :

It was only 3 years ago mate. Thumbs Up

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Paul@125power · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Karma :

Was your NSR brand new, made when bought or was it second hand or brand new but bougt at a very later date?

Still...3 years is alot of price difference in term of bikes!

R1 brand new 2005 = 10K (ish or +)

2nd hand 2005 = 4K (ish or - depending on time owned)

( -ve or +ve values depending on were you live ibn the UK (north or south))
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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

Paul@125power · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Karma :

Their are Sooooooooo many variables involved when choosing a 125 that a lot of people couldn't possible understand!!! That's a fact. Anyone else that knows what they are talking about agree?
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