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lee125
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: water coming out of a hole in the frame! Reply with quote

hi i have a 1994 yamaha dtr 125 and whilst ive had it ,it has had about 6 head gaskets and has been skimmed a couple of times as well and now it has just started doing this weird thing when you rev the bike water comes out of a hole in the frame near the expansion tank could someone explain what could be causing this and is there even ment to be a small hole there? cheers Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume it is just water and not coolant? (to find out, dip your finger in and taste some, coolant tastes sweet).

I don't know exactly, but on the assumption that it is plain water, none of your bikes systems have plain water in them. This means it is rain water/road spray and they probably put a wee hole in there to allow it to drain out. There is such a hole on the underside of my swingarm for this exact purpose.

If it is coolant, I dunno.

Disclaimer: Taste fluids emenating from your bike at your own risk. I once tasted a clear fluid which was dripping from the underside of my bike to find it was battery acid. It is a good way of telling though.
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i did that sorry i forgot to put it in it is coolant that it is spraying out not water
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
There is such a hole on the underside of my swingarm for this exact purpose.

Is there another hole where it gets in? I ask because I think you may just be mistaken about the reason for the hole..
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a vf400 and that used one of the frame tubes as a coolant pipe, is this the case on the dtr? if so i think you've sprung a leak and this would explain the gasket failures.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the pipe from the radiator is attached to the expansion tank its just on the frame near the expansion tank there is a small hole which it splurts out of
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee can you define "sprays out"
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:

Is there another hole where it gets in? I ask because I think you may just be mistaken about the reason for the hole..


Several, including the bits to hold the cable guides along the top and the two open ends. I can't think of any other reason for there to be a 3mm diameter hole in the underside of each leg of the swingarm.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the ends are open why would it need drain holes? The reason for small holes in hollow structures is because you can't weld them closed. On bike frames etc it's to let the air escape when it's heated by welding. If there isn't a hole the last little bit of welding gets blown out & ends up looking like crap.
Not sure about other bikes, but on Kaw's the holes are 3mm...... Wink

The holes are usually on the bottom so that you can't see them.. & so water won't find it's way in there by gravity....
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well rusty water comes out of them so to me they are drain holes. The open ends are not the lowest point, the holes are.

If the holes weren't there, you could land up with 1/4" of water sloshing about in them.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case I'd enlarge em to about 1/4in & spray something like Waxoyl in there to stop the corrosion....after you've baked it in a oven to dry it out first of course Smile
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
Lee can you define "sprays out"

it like splash's out. the higher the revs the more that splashes out.

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The holes are usually on the bottom so that you can't see them.. & so water won't find it's way in there by gravity....

the hole its coming out from is underneath the bit of frame its on i will try and get photo tomorrow[/quote]
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