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StottyB
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: The Law is pretty f***ing stupid! Reply with quote

Let me get this striahgt. I'm 17 wiht a CBT from my automatic 50cc and i can ride a manual 125cc legally!?!?!

I'm going to do it but it just seems absurd, i havn't got a clue how to ride a manual!?
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: The Law is pretty f***ing stupid! Reply with quote

StottyB wrote:
Let me get this striahgt. I'm 17 wiht a CBT from my automatic 50cc and i can ride a manual 125cc legally!?!?!

I'm going to do it but it just seems absurd, i havn't got a clue how to ride a manual!?


They teach you on the CBT.
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: The Law is pretty f***ing stupid! Reply with quote

StottyB wrote:
I'm going to do it but it just seems absurd, i havn't got a clue how to ride a manual!?


Its very easy to learn how to do it.

And why does it seem absurd ? would you rather take a test for every upgrade in cc's ?
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Its pronounced Jixxer!


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PostPosted: 23:02 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

thing is ITS YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE , not the CBT instructors so if you think its ok to risk it then do it , else don't.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: The Law is pretty f***ing stupid! Reply with quote

McGee wrote:
StottyB wrote:
Let me get this striahgt. I'm 17 wiht a CBT from my automatic 50cc and i can ride a manual 125cc legally!?!?!

I'm going to do it but it just seems absurd, i havn't got a clue how to ride a manual!?


Wtf are you on about. You need L plates. And its very easy to learn how to do it.

And why does it seem absurd ? would you rather take a test for every upgrade in cc's ?


i was actually thinking about this earlier. If you have to do your test to get on the roads then wont there be less chavs around on the roads?
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about me taking a test on a 125cc bike not riding a bike for 2 years then getting a hyabusa?

I could do that legally.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: The Law is pretty f***ing stupid! Reply with quote

Type_Mo wrote:

i was actually thinking about this earlier. If you have to do your test to get on the roads then wont there be less chavs around on the roads?


Not all people have the money to keep buying/renting bikes to take tests etc ?
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Its pronounced Jixxer!
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats true. i wish i had just done a test straight away instead of rideing on cbt cos now i cannto be botherd to do my test for full licence, but i have to!!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a chav it's just i'm fed up with riding in the gutter on a 50cc and in my opinion theres no point in a car before going to university because i won't have it for long enough to make the vast amounts of money worthwhile.

I can't find any 125's in my area that havn't been de-restricted. Do many people ride de-restricted illegally? Does it really matter? Does it make a huge difference?
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
What about me taking a test on a 125cc bike not riding a bike for 2 years then getting a hyabusa?

I could do that legally.


That'd be great! Were do i sign up? Cool Very Happy Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type_Mo wrote:
dodsi wrote:
What about me taking a test on a 125cc bike not riding a bike for 2 years then getting a hyabusa?

I could do that legally.


That'd be great! Were do i sign up? Cool Very Happy Twisted Evil


The bottom of your A2 pass certificate.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: The Law is pretty f***ing stupid! Reply with quote

phantomtek wrote:
StottyB wrote:
Let me get this striahgt. I'm 17 wiht a CBT from my automatic 50cc and i can ride a manual 125cc legally!?!?!

I'm going to do it but it just seems absurd, i havn't got a clue how to ride a manual!?


They teach you on the CBT.


Do they? I was on a ped for the CBT (had a pink box I'll have you know) no talk about gears what so ever.

So I was kinda nervous when I first got home to practice on the RS.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: The Law is pretty f***ing stupid! Reply with quote

CoronaBoner wrote:
phantomtek wrote:
They teach you on the CBT.


Do they? I was on a ped for the CBT (had a pink box I'll have you know) no talk about gears what so ever.

So I was kinda nervous when I first got home to practice on the RS.


If you are 16 it's a moped CBT, or geared 125 at the instructors discretion, but not on the assessment just for training.

If you are 17 it will be a geared 125.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: The Law is pretty f***ing stupid! Reply with quote

CoronaBoner wrote:

They teach you on the CBT.


Do they? I was on a ped for the CBT (had a pink box I'll have you know) no talk about gears what so ever.

So I was kinda nervous when I first got home to practice on the RS.[/quote]

We didn't have any talk of gears either
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought you had to take a seperate cbt for a manual bike.

When i had my cbt it had like a box to say if it was a manual cbt i took. Confused
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 23 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcatate wrote:
I thought you had to take a seperate cbt for a manual bike.

When i had my cbt it had like a box to say if it was a manual cbt i took. Confused


Just had a look and there is the box you talk of (Category Restrictions)

just been left blank Confused
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh. I did my CBT on a manual bike and on the certificate there is a box titled 'Category Restrictions', but it's been left blank. Perhaps you are s'posed to do another CBT if your going from auto to gears, but they just dont bother with it?
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PostPosted: 00:44 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

StottyB wrote:
I can't find any 125's in my area that havn't been de-restricted. Do many people ride de-restricted illegally? Does it really matter? Does it make a huge difference?


It's pretty much par for the course that most 125's are full power, with restriction being compared to things like riding wearing a high vis vest, or ritting a roll bar or front/back bumpers to the bike. In my experience, I'd say that the majority of young'uns ride derestricted regardless of what their licence says, with some members on here even riding full power bikes on a 33bhp licence. The difference in power between 11.6 and 23.7bhp is quite a big difference, and the main effect of the derestriction is that the bike actually runs properly, instead of running with ridiculously bad fuelling.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my CBT on a Yamaha YQ100 (automatic scooter)

Never toutched a geared bike in my life before that. A year later. my mate bought a 125 geared bike. I had 2 or 3 goes up and down the street and that was it, mainly getting used to the clutch after several stalls.

3 weeks later I bought the CBR. Rode home! Not a problem Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did a CBT on a ped when i was 16 (few months before my birthday) just to get it out of the way, got a 125 shortly after my birthday and had taught myself to use gears (albeit with a few bad habits that were picked up by my instructor for my test) safely within a few hours.

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PostPosted: 18:08 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: The Law is pretty f***ing stupid! Reply with quote

StottyB wrote:
Let me get this striahgt. I'm 17 wiht a CBT from my automatic 50cc and i can ride a manual 125cc legally!?!?!

I'm going to do it but it just seems absurd, i havn't got a clue how to ride a manual!?


Actually - Your CBT Certificate will state 'Manual' or 'Automatic' - thus if you pass on a 50cc twist-n-go you must re-take before riding a geared 50cc or 125cc bike.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcatate wrote:
I thought you had to take a seperate cbt for a manual bike.

When i had my cbt it had like a box to say if it was a manual cbt i took. Confused


i agree - i thought you needed to do the cbt on a geared bike to ride a geared bike!!!!
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: The Law is pretty f***ing stupid! Reply with quote

Miraclefish wrote:
StottyB wrote:
Let me get this striahgt. I'm 17 wiht a CBT from my automatic 50cc and i can ride a manual 125cc legally!?!?!

I'm going to do it but it just seems absurd, i havn't got a clue how to ride a manual!?


Actually - Your CBT Certificate will state 'Manual' or 'Automatic' - thus if you pass on a 50cc twist-n-go you must re-take before riding a geared 50cc or 125cc bike.


Not true. If you look on motorcyce training websites (usually in the FAQ's) you'll find that you can. An example of this:

'I took my CBT on a 50cc moped when I was 16 years old. I'm now 17 and I would like to ride a 125cc bike. What do I need to do? First, check that your licence shows Category A provisional. If so, you can ride a 125cc machine for as long as your CBT certificate lasts. If your licence doesn't have Category A showing, you will need to apply to DVLA Swansea to get it added on. Once you have got your licence back, you will be able to ride a 125cc machine until your CBT certificate expires.

I took my CBT on an automatic scooter. Can I ride a motorcycle with clutch and gears?
Yes, provided you comply with the age and engine size/power restrictions mentioned above, the CBT is normally valid for either type of transmission.

I took my full licence test on an automatic scooter. Can I ride a motorcycle with clutch and gears?
A full licence taken on a motorcycle with automatic transmission will only act as a PROVISIONAL licence for manual bikes, so you will be limited to 125cc with L plates, until you pass a Practical test on a motorcycle with manual transmission.'

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PostPosted: 18:20 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

StottyB wrote:

I can't find any 125's in my area that havn't been de-restricted. Do many people ride de-restricted illegally? Does it really matter? Does it make a huge difference?


Do you ride your 50 restricted?
As for the cbt, you dont have to do a geared one, its all the same.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No i don't ride my 50 restricted - in my opinion its too dangerous.........why?
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