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Groove
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Close encounter was just the warning :( Reply with quote

So ive now got 3 points Cool

Overtaking a learner car being stupid and went up to 40mph in a 30.

As i was getting to the end of the road a cop jumped out from behind a car and pulled me over. Turns out there were 3 all standing behind the car Rolling Eyes

He told me i was doing 42, fair enough, i probably was. And that the reason they were there was because "There were reports of a green Kawasaki speeding up that road"

That green kawasaki is a mate of mine who has a pretty loud Art race can Laughing

Oh well, £60 i dont have now has to be paid to them within a month, ontop of the £100 for a new tyre and ~£70 for new brakes i dont have.

Oh and i did mention the fact that there were hiding, he told me to look at the sign above there head, "Speed cameras" Evil or Very Mad

There isnt a proper speed camera around for miles! And theres only one of em!

Oh well Sad
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put it down to experience mate, just make sure you dont get another 3 or your licence is gone.

I've been lucky so far and got no points, but it can only be a matter of time. I was giving it some Edric Largesson the other day on the way back from Southend, and I always worry when I'm home that maybe I did get clocked.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of people on here say that sort of thing is avoidable, it’s just to do with timing, you weren’t pushing it.
I guess you know the road, you know it has signs for cameras, but no cameras. And that is the reason they hide.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you were doing 40 in a 30 overtaking a learner, someone unconfident and liable to make sudden unexpected moves? just pull back a little and give the poor bastard some room, we all have to start somewhere.

sorry, but you deserve what you got. Not only was it stupid because of course you're more likely to get pulled for speeding in a 30, its just pointless. Its people like you ruining it for the rest of us who want to ride fast when its sensible (if you see what I mean) and be left alone by the plod and the public.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen wrote:
you were doing 40 in a 30 overtaking a learner, someone unconfident and liable to make sudden unexpected moves? just pull back a little and give the poor bastard some room, we all have to start somewhere.

sorry, but you deserve what you got. Not only was it stupid because of course you're more likely to get pulled for speeding in a 30, its just pointless. Its people like you ruining it for the rest of us who want to ride fast when its sensible (if you see what I mean) and be left alone by the plod and the public.


It was a perfectly straigt road with us 2 on it and a car parked about 150 meters up the road, i was past very quickly (doesnt take long to get to 45 from 25 on a 600 does it.

Just happen that that parked car had 3 coppers with 2 radar guns behind it. (the reading was 104 meters away Confused )
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah fair enough I understand that it wasn't a particularly dangerous move, but thats not really my point...

I'm not trying to start a long argument or anything. I just wanted to make it clear that if you do speed in a 30, you're asking for trouble for a variety of reasons. I'm not a safety nazi or anything, but 30's need to respected, its better for everyone that way Karma
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long have you had your license, about 6 months? So you've now got over a year of riding round on tenterhooks knowing that 3 more points and you'll lose your license... Confused
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not a safety nazi or anything


Mr. Green

Unlucky, I'm sure 99% people on here would have done the same.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harold_Shand wrote:
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I'm not a safety nazi or anything


Mr. Green

Unlucky, I'm sure 99% people on here would have done the same.


fair enough, I suppose 'safety-naziness' is a relative thing. But my point was more about being smart enough not to get done than it was about safety.
I stick to 20s, 30s and 40s, then I go as fast as I feel I can within my skill limits (and without getting caught) when riding anywhere else. If that makes me a safety nazi then so be it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad luck, your mate speeding in a 30 worries me more than you overtaking a learner in a 30. Or was it just the locals "assuming" he was speeding because of his loud can?
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doing near 40 in a 30mph area isn't a big deal (ie most people do it). What I might have a problem with is overtaking someone who is doing the speed limit. Fair enough if they were going slower than the limit (and you do suggest they were doing 25).
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen: you become a safety Nazi for hassling people about it, not for thinking it, or so I am led to believe Smile.

40 in a 30 can be a load safer than 30 in a 40 in some situations.

If the learner was only doing 20 say, it'd be better to accelerate faster, and pull in a way infront of them then go past them slowly then pull in going just faster them in my opinion.


Sadly the police often monitor speeds in places where it's safe to go over the limit.


If you were cheeky, you could try and argue the accuracy of the gun, but may well back fire.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

40 in a 30 can be a load safer than 30 in a 40 in some situations.

If the learner was only doing 20 say, it'd be better to accelerate faster, and pull in a way infront of them then go past them slowly then pull in going just faster them in my opinion.


no disagreement from me on either of those points.

But 30 limits are where people see bikes mostly, so its speeding through these areas that's giving bikers a bad public image, leading to increased pressure for restrictions and limits. 30 limits are (obviously) filled with pedestrians, cyclists, kids etc as well, so the police are clearly going to monitor speeding there more than they do on a deserted B road (possibly not always the case, but thats a different story on camera placements. The cops in co. durham are pretty sound on this, not a single stationary camera in the county actually).

So all I'm saying is: speeding in 30's is daft because it makes us all look bad and theres a high risk of getting caught, getting points and a nasty fine. I'm no 'safety nazi', however you want to define it, I just intend to keep my license clean and see no problem with backing off a little through town to do this.
If I was gonna get points I'd like to at least think it was 'worthwhile', like for hooning along in a 60 having fun..... getting points for doing 37 in a 30 or whatever would piss me off.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen wrote:
30 limits are (obviously) filled with pedestrians, cyclists, kids etc as well, so the police are clearly going to monitor speeding there more than they do on a deserted B road

Cops around here set up speed traps on open 40s, where there's a pavement which is rarely used.
Infact I've rarely seen a speed camera van around places where's there's lots of possibilities for injuries.

Generally I do try and keep to the speed limit in 30s, but I don't think that has to mean a great deal.
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