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DEN MONKEY
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Crash bungs/frame sliders ? Reply with quote

Ok after dropping the bike last week without any damage I'm considering picking up a set of crash bungs.

Who has em ?
Have you tested them ?
Result?

Some of the larger named brands seem a little expensive but obviously if they work the way they should do it may be well worth it.

Any brands to avoid.

Should I also get swing arm ones at the same time ?
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kawakid
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get R&G crash bungs, everyone recommends them.

Got them on mine cost about £60. Instructions were pants though.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got them on my Triumph Sprint ST
Rubbed R/H/S off last Nov. Then blootered the new one off yesterday morning.
Good kit tho. Managed to push the Mu' Fu' over one day when checking tyre press. Landed on L/H/S bung. NO damage. Get a muffler guard too. I did never fitted coz it looks crap but my shinny cans knacked now.

R&Gs and lumps are replaceable
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

After droping my bike my old man paid to get them fitted $60 + 15 for fitting.

So I say there worth it Wink

While buying them the guy had a bike in the front with a smashed up left hand side it was a k6 GSXR 600 and the fairing was in pieces and the clutch lever and shifter were snapped. The guy dropped it in his drive way. But check this it had 6 miles on the clock, just think of the cash he could of saved with bungs.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't R&G sell a full set that'll protect every part of your bike?

I'm thinking of splashing out on one if thats the case
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G
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mondeokid wrote:
Just get R&G crash bungs, everyone recommends them.

Not me.

Should handle low speed stuff, but I'm not convinced that they actually save more damage than they cause in a lot of situations.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd use R&G, don't bother with the lesser ones. I had an off a few weeks ago at Cadwell, the Motrax bungs I had fitted did save a fair bit of damage, but didn't stand up too well themselves. I've replaced them with R&G.
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G
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

R&G ones on my SV left the little cup thing very quickly - while the big chunky ones on my other SV just ground down nicely.

R&G ones are designed to bend/brake if too much stress is applied; however from my experience they do it too soon and can damage fairings etc if they do. Also can damage threads as they bend.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're getting any then get R&G's, they are the best on the market.

However, just be aware that they are not a miracle cure for accident damage, and in some situation they can make the damage worse. In a fast crash they can get caught and rip off, possibly taking engine mounts with them, they can get caught on curbs or drains and flip the bike or they can bugger threads and mountings.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say the make you choose depends partly on what you're wanting to protect it against.

R&Gs are fantastic for low / zero speed drops, bike falls over, lands on bung instead of fairing, job done.

When you start trying to protect is in high speed drops (which is more what G is trying to do) then the results can obviously become a bit more variable.

Bike fell over in the back of a lorry once, just sat on the bung quite happily, no damage.

Dropped my bike at Silverstone with R&Gs and while I dented the can, broke the footpeg hanger and scratched the fairing, they did the important bit and kept the engine casings off the deck. This was a long slide over smooth tarmac which wore away approx half the mushroom.

Dropped it at Brands and they did bugger all, cos it went down on a rough surface and bounced around. Crash mushroom bent back and broke the fairing around the mounting point. The bung itself was gravel rashed to buggery but not actually worn away. I'd say the only benefit I got was from the fork bungs cos one got a bit chewed up and my fork leg didn't.

Like McJam says, they're not a miracle cure.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i came off the hornet at high speed at silverstone the R&g saved my bike. It slid a long way and wore down the bung like a knee slider. Without them it would have bene teh engine of the deck. R&G are def worth it for a naked bike. i'm going to fit them to my sports bike but don think they will do as good a job for the fairings as they did for my hornet engine.
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GearboxGeezer
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive heard that crash bungs can sometimes damaged the frame, is this true?
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Re: Crash bungs/frame sliders ? Reply with quote

DEN MONKEY wrote:
Ok after dropping the bike last week without any damage I'm considering picking up a set of crash bungs.

Who has em ?
Have you tested them ?
Result?

Some of the larger named brands seem a little expensive but obviously if they work the way they should do it may be well worth it.

Any brands to avoid.

Should I also get swing arm ones at the same time ?


R&G. Yes, get swingarm ones as well (and fork protectors if they have 'em).

Yes. Embarassed Paddling a tight 3 point turn (about 9 points really), dropped the bike. Well, I say dropped - I'm big and strong enough to hold onto it, but couldn't lift it back up from on top of it and couldn't just hold it all day (no-one else around to help). So I laid it down very gently, got off and pushed it back up.

No damage at all, not even a scratch.
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G
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

GearboxGeezer wrote:
Ive heard that crash bungs can sometimes damaged the frame, is this true?

They are more likey to protect that

Jay; I seem to remember your hornet ones were big and chunky generally, while a lot of sports bike R&G designs are spindly.

Bendy; also remember that your thread's been dodgy from the R&Gs I thought? Not much problem in your case as you can put a bolt on the back. A much, much bigger and more expensive problem if you can't.
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thread is dodgy from the previous owner cross threading them when fitting them, not really an inherent design fault, more a user fuckup.
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Misc
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused as i was just gonna get the R&G's but now i'm not sure, so what ones are good?
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

R&G are good, but i think G is trying to make the point they are not little nylon miricals, and chunkier sliders can be bettter in higher speeds offs. But on the road anything above 30mph or so the bike is gonna hit something else and do more damage anyway.
I'm going to buy a full set of r&g's for my daytona 675. Not expecting them to save the fairings but help protect them nd the engine.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

had R+G's on mine when i bought it - tested them out in a petrol station!!!

swung my leg over to get back on and as soon as my foot touched the floor it slipped and the bike was going with me!!!

no damage whatsoever!!! little scrape on exhaust and a little scuff on the slider - so impressed i bought another pair to protect the engine covers in the event of a spill down the road!!

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worth £60 easily - saves hundreds for repairs
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only time that I have dropped my bike it did a fair amount of damage. This had nothing to do with crash bungs, it was to do with the fact that the right hand side, and in particular the handle bar/nose fairing landed on top of a 1ft high garden wall. The damage to my R6 included a broken nose fairing, a scuffed mirror, a damaged brake master cylinder, a scuffed kill switch, a snapped footpeg, a scuffed exhaust and a scuffed side fairing.

Now I don't have any crash bungs fitted as I don't like the look of them, I think they compliment the look of a bike one bit. I am fairly certain that even if I did have any fitted it would not have saved much if any of the damage, because the bike landed on the wall rather than the ground. It was just unlucky at the end of the day.

If I did have any crash bobbins on my bike then I would only the upper and lower frame sliders and certainly not the exhaust can slider etc as in my opinion that is just going too far. Too many crash protection devices make it look like you can't ride your bike. But when its all said and done, you pay your money and take your choice, each to their own.
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