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Villers
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: My new K6 SV650.... Reply with quote

Has finally arrived, pictures will follow once Ive cleaned all the flies off it from the 100 mile trip home!

This is my first brand spanker so Im a little green on the subject of running in. The guy at the garage, and suzuki intheir manual, stressed not to go over 5k revs for 600 miles (first service) then 7500 revs until 1000 miles then full revs.

Anyone went the other way and thrashed the bolts off it from brand new? Anyone any horror stories of what damage can be done if I was to ignore the running in?

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PostPosted: 17:34 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on a nice purchase. I love my SV!

Not sure on the running. There was a website kicking around for a company who'll run it in on a dyno. They pretty much rag it arguing about the heat that seats the piston rings.

A little over my head, but it's out there somewhere.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two choices really. Rag it and get full power and more(possibly). Or stick to their advice and potentially have a bike a bit down on power. Personally as its new and the fact that ecus are storing more and more info i would do it as recommended by the dealer. Cool
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just ride it how you normally would but bear in mind not to redline it or most importantly DO NOT let it labour....!

You'll not harm a modern Jap engine by revving it near its working limit, revs are better for it than letting it struggle.
Mine now has 750 miles on it and its ready for a canning BIG STYLEE
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused, how can the way you run in a bike effect the future power/performance of the engine?

Oh, and you! don't come back until you've got some pics!
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly - Great choice of bike Thumbs Up

As I understand it, which mirrors Johnnys advice above, the engine is most stressed at the max redline closely followed by too little revs.

As long as you ride steadily, say, as you would in heavy rain, it should be fine.
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny GSX-R wrote:
...most importantly DO NOT let it labour....!


What do you mean by this? using the wrong gear when trying to accelerate?
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can use full revs, just dont keep it there.

try not to keep it at the same revs for a long time, vary it.

the bike will start to feel different as it runs in (apparently...)

find a good piece of road with some fastish straights, and slow sharp bends. this should wear it in fine and also scrub your tyres in well Smile
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went steady on my 10R for the first hundred miles, i used all the revs but not all the throttle. I just kept varying the speed and rolling the throttle gently.

After that i was riding pretty much normally.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny GSX-R wrote:

Mine now has 750 miles on it and its ready for a canning BIG STYLEE


New rear tyre needed yet???? Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny GSX-R wrote:
Just ride it how you normally would but bear in mind not to redline it or most importantly DO NOT let it labour....!

You'll not harm a modern Jap engine by revving it near its working limit, revs are better for it than letting it struggle.
Mine now has 750 miles on it and its ready for a canning BIG STYLEE


Sorry John, but do that to a brand new V-twin and you will break something. Ride at just over 5K which equates to 70mph. Don't drive at this constant so slow down occasionally and then speed up back to 5K, not speed up beyond 5K to vary the engine load. Rev it and it won't like it - inline 4's are built to rev high, but a V-twin makes it's torque a lot lower so it needs to be run-in in that band as per the manual.

Remember you have two entirely separate sets of cam chains, cams shafts and valve assemblies. Not one lot all joined together so they need to be treated with care to ensure they bed in evenly. Rag the bike and the rear cylinder will get hotter than the front (it's out of the air flow). This is normal and has been taken into consideration by the designers, but NOT when new.

Keep the oil-cooler, brake line couplers and starter motor casing sprayed with FS-365 or similar as they are bare alloy or steel and will start to corrode if you don't. Mine haven't as I've done this, (It's done 9000 miles through winter to!). I've seen other SV's less that 6 months old with owners who haven't taken any action and they've rotted Thumbs Down. The rest of the bike is spot on build quality wise.

ALSO DO NOT FIT THE FAIRING LOWERS IF YOURS IS A FAIRED BIKE Question . ASIDE FROM LOOKING SHITE AND 'BOLTED' ON, THEY MAKE IT HARD TO KEEP THE ENGINE CLEAN - DON'T BELIEVE ME? CHECK OUT AND COMPARE AN SV WITH THEM AND ONE WITHOUT.... so get a belly pan, finishes of the looks nicely.

Ditch the standard Dunlops as soon as possible - BEFORE they wear out. So many low speed spills reported on SV650.org have been caused by thos tyres slipping out in the wet. It almost happened to me. The current record for milage on the O.E. tyres stands at 13,000 miles Shocked . Kind of gives you an idea of the rubber compound.

Lastly, yes you will find the front dives a lot when braking, but it doesn't effect the handling in bends, well it doesn't for me but then I only weigh 11 stone Wink. The bikes uber flickable. Rick (Black Knight) back me up here!!

Oh and watch out for the exhaust can - it gets very hot Wink


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PostPosted: 19:46 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thrash the tits off it from day one:

https://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This site has all the info and spec's you will ever need on the pointy SV's!!

https://www.media.suzuki.com/svlaunch/index.htm
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not me favourite bike but its nice feeling having a brand new bike isn't it Thumbs Up

When I got the RS125 and ZX6R new I pretty much followed the running in instructions by the book so to speak. Thing is other people will tell you other ways they think it should be run in, but I'd sooner trust the bloke thats got probably several degrees in mechanical engineering who designed the bike and knows how it should be run in. Bloody boring though not being able to razz it as fast as possible.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu_666 wrote:
Not me favourite bike but its nice feeling having a brand new bike isn't it Thumbs Up

When I got the RS125 and ZX6R new I pretty much followed the running in instructions by the book so to speak. Thing is other people will tell you other ways they think it should be run in, but I'd sooner trust the bloke thats got probably several degrees in mechanical engineering who designed the bike and knows how it should be run in. Bloody boring though not being able to razz it as fast as possible.


There is also the warranty to consider. If you break something inside the engine before the 1000 mile run-in period is up they might suspect you hadn't been following the instructions and not honour it Confused
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:


There is also the warranty to consider. If you break something inside the engine before the 1000 mile run-in period is up they might suspect you hadn't been following the instructions and not honour it Confused


How can you prove you haven't followed it??
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

m99dws wrote:
extreme3d wrote:


There is also the warranty to consider. If you break something inside the engine before the 1000 mile run-in period is up they might suspect you hadn't been following the instructions and not honour it Confused


How can you prove you haven't followed it??


Any warranty claims involve sending the relevent parts and/or photos of the parts to Suzuki UK. A badly run-in engine will have glazing marks, stress marks and clear uneven heating of the metal for all to see. They may and indeed have every right not to honour the claim as it states quite clearly in the service and warranty booklet that it rests on the run-in procedure being followed.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy i got my new sv last week, really happy with it still prefer my nc but still. And the running in seriously sucks ass!
heres a pic
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope you enjoy it Villers.

Now that you've jsut got it, I can highly recommend a CCC can for only £110 direct on Ebay. Removeable baffle job too!!

What Jimbot says about the fairing lowers is true - They do look a big naff, bellypan and seat cowl all the way. And don't take what the lad says lightly about the corrosion - Look after it otherwise it'll rust away like nobodys business.

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Sorry John, but do that to a brand new V-twin and you will break something. Ride at just over 5K which equates to 70mph. Don't drive at this constant so [b]slow down occasionally and then speed up back to 5K, not speed up beyond 5K to vary the engine load. Rev it and it won't like it - inline 4's are built to rev high, but a V-twin makes it's torque a lot lower so it needs to be run-in in that band as per the manual.
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How do you know you'll definetely break something? I mean...how do you KNOW know..
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:


extreme3d wrote:


Sorry John, but do that to a brand new V-twin and you will break something. Ride at just over 5K which equates to 70mph. Don't drive at this constant so [b]slow down occasionally and then speed up back to 5K, not speed up beyond 5K to vary the engine load. Rev it and it won't like it - inline 4's are built to rev high, but a V-twin makes it's torque a lot lower so it needs to be run-in in that band as per the manual.


How do you know you'll definetely break something? I mean...how do you KNOW know..


How do I 'know'... easy, the force is stong with me Wink
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

About these pictures Villers Smile
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 12 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:24 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody hell lads thanks for all the info and the good response!

I dont know who to reply to first so Ill try and be general.

Thanks for the positives about the bike Thumbs Up

Thanks even more for the negative technical info regarding tyres, corrosion and engine damage.

The belly pan is a SORE subject, I bought one with the bike but suzuki couldnt get it delivered in time so I had to pick it up without it. It will get fitted on its first service apparently.
And as for the pictures....... well Ive been out to watch derren brown tonight 'something wicked this way comes' so Ive had no time to clear up the splatters from today. Ill take a pic tomorrow whether clean or not and post it up. I bought it because it seemed like a financially good idea but now Im in love. Mr. Green

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PostPosted: 00:36 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
I bought it because it seemed like a financially good idea but now Im in love. Mr. Green


I know the feeling Mr. Green

You'll love it even more once you can start to use all it's power. It's a very satisfying feeling to overtake a born-again wanabee on his latest 1 litre job. If you ride fast on a sports bike then fine. People are impressed yes but it's to be expected on that kind of bike. But it's when you start being fast and up with the front runners on an 'ikkle beginners' bike that people really notice Cool
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