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KezzeR
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PostPosted: 02:31 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: What would happen if..... Reply with quote

Well.

What would happen if i got my 50cc desrestricted, and im 16, and the police pulled me over and saw it was derestricted?

My mate said they would take it and crush it, however, my other mate says, i'd get a warning, fine, or points on my licence.

This happened to anybody? Or know what would happen? Thanx!
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SilvaRizla
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'd never ever know it was restricted, but lets assume they did....

If you blagged and said you had no idea it was derestricted you'd get away with it, if not it really could go either way because you are technically not insured
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its hard to say i think the police are different in different areas...
A normal police car wouldn't really know..But if you got pulled over for what ever reason by traffic police they'll know straight away...
Thinking about it, unless you were speeding or have committed a traffic offence you won't get any points..

As mentioned before though, your insurance company thinks that your on a moped with an L plate front and back, and the fastest you can go is 30mph..

When they find out your L plate was changed for a neon and that your bike can do more like 45.. they don't want to know you.

But then, its a matter of safety, my 50 was restricted when i got her, and the most i could do was 29... and 16 up a hill ! which is not safe or practical, as i was nearly ran off the road by cars overtaking me 24/7. Only doing 30mph you'll never be able to keep up with traffic, as no one does 30 these days, unless they see a speed trap.

I had my bike D/R so it was safer and i actually had some power there if i needed it, but in doing so for that faithful year i was technically driving without insurance.

I was spoken to by the police once (because being out on a 50cc past 2am means its stolen of course) and they didn't even know it was a 50cc, let alone if it was restricted or not. They just checked my licence against the numberplate to see if i was insured, checked tax, and then sent me on my way.

To be safer, i'd say its better to be De-Restricted.. But then you risk your insurance say if you were hit by car or hit a car... then things get nasty...

But as long as you've got your L plates on and aren't trying to pull wheelies over speed bumps, you shouldn't have a problem.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Police dont recieve any training in bikes, at all. Only the bike cops would know about it (just asuming they are into bikes)

But theres no way of telling just by looking at the bike. Just hope you dont have an accident and the insurance company discovers its derestricted or u get caught speeding faster than ur bike should be going (30mph)
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A mate got flashed by a speed camera doing 45 in a 30 (think it was a 30) on his 50cc Zip, 3 points and a fine and that was it.
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KezzeR
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright thanks for your help, im more leaned towards getting it de-restricted now.

The bike im hoping to get is a Yamaha Aerox R, which i've heard do about 55 de-restricted, so it's all good.

I just didn't want the police taking it off me, as my mum would be paying £2,000 to find out the police have crushed it, and it isn't fair on her. But seen as the most is a fine and points, i'm gonna go for it in september when i get my bike. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groovearmada wrote:
A mate got flashed by a speed camera doing 45 in a 30 (think it was a 30) on his 50cc Zip, 3 points and a fine and that was it.


Why was he speeding when there were speed cameras about? Confused
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you get points on a provisional license?
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv never had any problems with my bike being derestricted and iv gone past police a few times doing 45 mph, but then that could just be because im on a big trail bike and it probably looks like im riding a 125.
Rob84 wrote:
Can you get points on a provisional license?

yes
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Jamie.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol. They don't crush your bike
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought that any infringement upon a provisional driving license would require the driver to reapply for it. Confused
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They dont crush your bike if anything they may impound it. However they are more likely to give you 3 points and a 60 pound fine and you will have to get it restricted again.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Jamie- wrote:
Lol. They don't crush your bike


Er......yes they do now .... new laws brought in. If its derestricted your not insured. That lets them take the bike off you there and then, with no appeal.

Its also easy to tel if its restricted as any 50cc bike that is restricted is classed as a moped and won't exceed 30mph, If your followed doing 35 your in trouble.
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KezzeR
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So your saying they CAN and WILL crusher my bike if i get found out?

Also i've heard the police randomly pull over L plated scooters as Chavs usually ride them and have them derestricted..
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
-Jamie- wrote:
Lol. They don't crush your bike


Er......yes they do now .... new laws brought in. If its derestricted your not insured. That lets them take the bike off you there and then, with no appeal.

Its also easy to tel if its restricted as any 50cc bike that is restricted is classed as a moped and won't exceed 30mph, If your followed doing 35 your in trouble.


Exactly what I told him. But he doesn't listen.

I also told him not to spend £2000 on a moped from a place that told him a restricted one does 40mph and that the depreciation will give his Mum a slight heart attack when it comes to selling. Seen '04 mopeds of the same make and model for about the £600 mark, the dealer seen you coming if you pay £2k + for one in my opinion.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

KezzeR wrote:
So your saying they CAN and WILL crusher my bike if i get found out?

Also i've heard the police randomly pull over L plated scooters as Chavs usually ride them and have them derestricted..

Well get a geared 50cc then, they rarely pull you over plus some geared 50cc can do about 45 restricted. (Gilera SMT for example)
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

KezzeR wrote:
So your saying they CAN and WILL crusher my bike if i get found out?

Also i've heard the police randomly pull over L plated scooters as Chavs usually ride them and have them derestricted..

It would be very unlikely they would crush it, iv never heard of a case of this happening. down here in taunton they have been randomly pulling over L platers and forcing them to get their bikes dynoed at the police station. The person i spoke to who had it happen was forced to pay to get his bike rerestricted back to 30mph.

john2 wrote:

Well get a geared 50cc then, they rarely pull you over plus some geared 50cc can do about 45 restricted. (Gilera SMT for example)
if a 50cc does 45 mph it means it derestricted or has not be restricted properly. For it to be a road legal restriction it must be restricted to 30mph. Geared trail bikes derestricted do about 45-50, so im not sure if you just wrote restricted instead of derestricted by mistake...
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole meaning of restricted is that its restricted to 30 MPH. If a "restricted" 50cc can do above 30, then its been semi or fully derestricted.
Which would make your insurance void if your only 16.
But out of everyone i know no one has kept their bike limited to 30, just cause it isn't safe.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

But how come a Gilera SMT can do 45 mph when run in straight out of the showroom?? And most of the time when they are fully restricted they can do about 35MPH so does that mean that nearly everyones 50cc insurance is not valid?
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 13 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

john2 wrote:
But how come a Gilera SMT can do 45 mph when run in straight out of the showroom?? And most of the time when they are fully restricted they can do about 35MPH so does that mean that nearly everyones 50cc insurance is not valid?


You need to account for speedometer overread.
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Jamie.
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 14 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen, I was avoiding posting this. Your bike will not get crushed under any circumstances unless you give full permission. Okay?
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PostPosted: 02:59 - 14 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate went about on his bike uninsured and derestricted, the police took the bike off him, impounded it and crushed it. Do you really think they asked him if it was ok with him or not? Do you think he said yes?

If you ride a derestricted bike, you are riding outside of your licence's terms. Therefore, you are not insured or licenced to ride the bike. The bike can be crushed.

Then again, he earlier said to me on MSN that he will be taking pillion, riding without a helmet and fitting blue neons to the bike. So in my opinion, he deserves everything he gets.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 14 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomtek wrote:

You need to account for speedometer overread.

Good point, but i think its true about them not crushing it but you have to pay 140 pound and then 12 pound everyday it has been kept to get it back. However in my opinion driving restricted is very dangerous as you get more people pulling out in front of you because you are going slow and more people trying to overtake you.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 14 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Around here they are definitely crushing minimotos caught in the park or on the street, havent heard of any full size bikes being crushed, - doesnt mean it hasnt happened though
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 14 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

WavyGravy wrote:
Around here they are definitely crushing minimotos caught in the park or on the street


Exactly, they do that because they are being ridden uninsured and unlicenced, which you are basically doing on the bigger bike.

And I do agree riding restricted is dangerous.
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