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alien.46.uk
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: CBT confusion Reply with quote

Hay, i was set out on how i was to take my CBT...

I was thinking that i could do my CBT on a 50cc TAG but another post has said that if you did it on a TAG then you can only use a TAG.


If i did it on a TAG, would i be able to get on my 125cc Geared Bike?

I thought you could just get your CBT and it covers you upto a 125cc Geared Bike.

Am i going to have to do my CBT on the 125 or can i get it on a TAG then run my 125?


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PostPosted: 10:07 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do your CBT on a manual you can only ride manual.
If your 17 or over you can do your CBT on one of the centres geared bikes but then still use ur TAG.
I assume thats a manual?
Manual CBT = Manual bike
Geared CBT = Any bike (under 125cc)
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich_simpkins wrote:
If you do your CBT on a manual you can only ride manual.
If your 17 or over you can do your CBT on one of the centres geared bikes but then still use ur TAG.
I assume thats a manual?
Manual CBT = Manual bike
Geared CBT = Any bike (under 125cc)
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Sorry that is complete crap.

You can take your CBT on anything you want and ride any gearbox you like.

If you're 16, you can do it on a moped and later upgrade to a geared 125 without retesting.

What the fuck is different about a manual and geared CBT? "Manual" and "Geared" mean the same thing.


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PostPosted: 10:18 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's quite a bit of confusion with the whole thing, as I think there were plans to restrict a learner to the gearbox/capacity that they did their CBT on. However I think Toby's right, you can ride what you want. I did my CBT on a 50cc moped (was supposed to be on a 125cc manual but something happened to do last minute), and I was allowed to ride a 125cc motorcycle on L plates.

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PostPosted: 10:19 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont have a TAG, so would use what the co. got.

I have a Geared 125cc Bike and was planning on doing my CBT before i hit 17 (just over a month), then i will be able to jump right on (with me dad following oon his GSX600F lol ... I Wish it was the other way round with me on the 600 Razz ).

If i did the CBT on a TAG (Twist-and-Go) Which i beleive are Auto (not sure as i never licked em, so never bothered knowing much about them, lol) ...

I thought that no matter how u got your CBT it would entitle you to upto a "Restricted" 125, Geared or Un-Geared at 17?
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

alien.46.uk wrote:

If i did the CBT on a TAG (Twist-and-Go) Which i beleive are Auto (not sure as i never licked em,


To be honest I don't think many people have Razz
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing There stupid things, thats why i missed them out at 16 ...

But this CBT lark is confuzing me, and i was going to book it over the next two weeks, but im sure as im confuzed, lol
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look,

Once you've passed your CBT on WHATEVER TRAINING BIKE YOU DECIDE TO USE, you can ride ANY BIKE (that is permittable to be ridden under a CBT).

Dammit.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

An example of conflicting opinions:

You can: https://www.lets-ride.co.uk/faq.htm#cbt12
You can't : https://www.begin-motorcycling.co.uk/cert.htm

Confused
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

alien.46.uk wrote:
Laughing There stupid things, thats why i missed them out at 16 ...

But this CBT lark is confuzing me, and i was going to book it over the next two weeks, but im sure as im confuzed, lol


Just book it and take it on whatever automatic/manual they give you, it really doesn't matter, but you might benefit from being taught gears.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to admit, they do say the opposite to each other Neutral


Im fine with gears as i run it on my land...
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're that worried, contact the CBT division of the DSA:

cbt@dsa.gsi.gov.uk
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

please listen to Toby

Get your CBT on a geared or an automatic either way you can ride on a 50cc (if 16) or a 125 (17 or above) there are no restriction whether its a geared or automatic.
There are NO rules to say you did it on a automatic 50cc so u have to use a automatic 50cc.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also agree with Toby and others. Although it was a while ago now, they haven't changed the rules on CBT.

I did mine on a Tomos 50 twist and go when I was 16. This allowed me to ride a geared 125 on L-plates when I turned 17. As I remember, there is nothing on the CBT certificate saying what you did it on.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I also agree with Toby and others. Although it was a while ago now, they haven't changed the rules on CBT.

I did mine on a Tomos 50 twist and go when I was 16. This allowed me to ride a geared 125 on L-plates when I turned 17. As I remember, there is nothing on the CBT certificate saying what you did it on.


Just to make it more confusing, I think there's a space for it to be written down. :/ I think they might of thought about restriction to gearbox, but they never did
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob84 wrote:
An example of conflicting opinions:

You can: https://www.lets-ride.co.uk/faq.htm#cbt12
You can't : https://www.begin-motorcycling.co.uk/cert.htm

Confused


Actually the last one says -

Quote:
For instance, if you took CBT on an automatic 50cc moped, that would be all you would be allowed to ride but if you took CBT on a geared 125cc motorcycle, you would be allowed to ride that and anything smaller. So if you wanted to upgrade, while still a learner, from a moped, for example, to a motorcycle, you would have to take CBT again, but this time on a motorcycle. If you wanted to upgrade from an automatic motorcycle to a manually geared motorcycle you would have to take CBT again on a manual bike. But as yet this provision is not in place.


which is saying, they might change things but they haven't.

Ride what you want, but I do suggest doing it on a manual if you have that option.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what skim reading does Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So in summary: it seems that there were plans to have gearbox/capacity restrictions for learners, depending on what they used for their CBT, although this never actually happened.

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PostPosted: 17:24 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yer, i should learn to read thing more in depth, lol


Thanks everyone...


Only joined yesturday and already had 2 things answered i wanted to know, lol...


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PostPosted: 07:42 - 27 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why dont you try calling the training centre before you take your CBT, They will advise you accordingly.

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PostPosted: 10:04 - 27 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got it sorted now, its just i didnt read it in depth enough...

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