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PostPosted: 14:19 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

My er6 has let me down yet again, sudden rev drop and death riding in to work yesterday

With other things that need doing (brakes are in need of attention asap anyway) it’s going to cost in the region on £600 to repair this time.

Money is tight and getting tighter, so I’ve just been and had a test ride on the most cost effective bike I can find. A brand new meteor 350.

I ride like a grandma, do approximately 35 miles a week on A and B roads, mostly under 60mph (deer about) and I’ve had my licence just under a year.

Tbh the Er6 shits me up a bit and I really enjoyed the laid back ride on the meteor.

Would I be daft swapping a fast naked for a slow ass cruiser?

For comparison the Kawasaki has done about 34k miles and was an ex riding school bike, wish I’d never bought it but was assuming that they would have actually looked after it, but I think it’s going to be a money pit. Meteor would be a brand new 22 plate with 3 years warranty.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rephrase the question:

Would moving from an unreliable bike that is starting to become a money pit to a new bike that checks all my boxes be a bad idea?
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is a Meteor 350 going to be reliable witout a great deal of input to keep it that way? I'm not knowledgeble about the build quality of modern Enfields. They srike me (maybe wrongly) as a Sunday afternoon potter bike.

That 350 looks nice though I prefer the Fireball to the one with the little sissy bar.

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PostPosted: 14:45 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

Prawny wrote:
My er6 has let me down yet again, sudden rev drop and death riding in to work yesterday

With other things that need doing (brakes are in need of attention asap anyway) it’s going to cost in the region on £600 to repair this time.

Money is tight and getting tighter, so I’ve just been and had a test ride on the most cost effective bike I can find. A brand new meteor 350.

I ride like a grandma, do approximately 35 miles a week on A and B roads, mostly under 60mph (deer about) and I’ve had my licence just under a year.

Tbh the Er6 shits me up a bit and I really enjoyed the laid back ride on the meteor.

Would I be daft swapping a fast naked for a slow ass cruiser?

For comparison the Kawasaki has done about 34k miles and was an ex riding school bike, wish I’d never bought it but was assuming that they would have actually looked after it, but I think it’s going to be a money pit. Meteor would be a brand new 22 plate with 3 years warranty.


Get the Meteor. I like the look of them too. Even considered it as my next bike not to care about and put moon miles on as a commuter and have a really nice bike as my fair-weather only weekend joy machine (after selling off my 125 and ER6F).
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

Prawny wrote:

Tbh the Er6 shits me up a bit


You either have wrists with all the finesss of a pork chop or you're a pussy.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
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Tbh the Er6 shits me up a bit


You either have wrists with all the finesss of a pork chop or you're a pussy.


Half the fun surely, live life in the edge and all that. I could probably live with going back to my Rebel but anything less and I'll be grabbing a handful* and wondering why nothing was happening. The 350 looks nice but 20bhp? That's barely more than a 125 can muster Shocked

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PostPosted: 15:32 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
You either have wrists with all the finesss of a pork chop or you're a pussy.


I think he means he's fucked off with it being in need of constant repairs and a general money-pit instead of he finds it too fast?
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode an RG125 with a stuck on throttle home 14 miles just using the on/off switch. I would imagine you could do the same with the rebel.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's gotta be a mistake swapping a Kawasaki for an Enfield, however new. Personally, I'd just fix the ER6 and keep it. Also, bear in mind that the ER6 most likely has much better brakes and suspension. Maybe ride a lot more this year - 35 miles a week for a year is absolutely nothing. Take longer rides. Plus, either get additional training or just study the art, and put in some time. You'll be happier with the ER6 as the weather improves.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Prawny wrote:

Tbh the Er6 shits me up a bit


You either have wrists with all the finesss of a pork chop or you're a pussy.


B. But also riding the meteor made realise that my throttle cable also needs attention too, I need all of my fingers wrapped around the grip to control the throttle in a reasonably subtle manner.

Of course I could do that on the meteor but I didn’t need to.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

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B. But also riding the meteor made realise that my throttle cable also needs attention too, I need all of my fingers wrapped around the grip to control the throttle in a reasonably subtle manner.



And? Thats how you normally hold onto the grips, with both hands and all thr fingers and thumbs.

It's not like a front brake where the better the setup, the more likely to just need two fingers to operate ffs.

If you are holding the grips with anything less than your whole hand you're doing it wrong. It's your primary contact with the steering for starters.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know for resting a finger on the top of the lever in trafficky areas. I saw it as a recommended technique and it’s good for me (short fingers) but I can’t do it for long on the Kwak because the throttle is either off or too on.

Still considering both options, I was really looking for horror stories about the new enfields.

Like I said in my OP the ER6 has had a hard life, and I only use it for trundling to work and back, motorcycling isn’t a hobby just a way to get to work and back that doesn’t require pedalling or spending £60 a week on parking.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. So if you can open the throttle (with it turned off) and it snaps shut when you let go, there's nothing wrong with the throttle, its a lack of finesse on the part of the rider.


It's not like a. Er has much power. It sounds like you'd have trouble driving my 1 litre c1....
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

Prawny wrote:
I ride like a grandma, do approximately 35 miles a week on A and B roads, mostly under 60mph (deer about) and I’ve had my licence just under a year.


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motorcycling isn’t a hobby just a way to get to work and back that doesn’t require pedalling or spending £60 a week on parking.


Sounds like you need a YBR125.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Prawny wrote:
I ride like a grandma, do approximately 35 miles a week on A and B roads, mostly under 60mph (deer about) and I’ve had my licence just under a year.


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motorcycling isn’t a hobby just a way to get to work and back that doesn’t require pedalling or spending £60 a week on parking.


Sounds like you need a YBR125.


In all honesty I did consider it, meteor has a bit more character. I did think about getting a 300ish scooter but the Enfield is cheaper and a bit cooler. Coming from a 40 year old.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't you sure that a 300 cc scooter wouldn't be too scary for you?

Speaking as a 51 year old.
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like it's been neglected and needs some thorough servicing. One thing I learned about the ER6 over 4 years of commuting is that it needs fettling to avoid the winter road crap taking its toll. I used to rebuild the brakes every year, sometimes twice because the salt always got in behind the dust seals and cause corrosion. Sounds like the throttle needs to come off for a clean.

ER6 was a decent bike but I probably wouldn't have another.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best not to let problems mount up. If you set aside some time to do all the straightforward maintenance maybe you'll feel a bit better about about the bike. For example, when's the last time the throttle cable was checked and lubed?
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

Prawny wrote:
an ex riding school bike, wish I’d never bought it but was assuming that they would have actually looked after it


Why on earth would you assume that? Riding school bikes get abused and dropped, every day, in all weathers, by people who don't know how to ride properly yet.

And you're doing, what 7 miles a day Monday to Friday? If your real priority is saving money, and motorcycles aren't a hobby, get an electric bicycle. Similar or cheaper upfront cost, the electricity is pennies, no tax or mot or insurance costs.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

Prawny wrote:
was assuming that they would have actually looked after it, but I think it’s going to be a money pit. warranty.


Havin worked for the cretin that actually owned/ran one of these schools .. may his spleen shrivel up and blow away on a storm wind .. i cannot tell you how fcukin funny that assumption is ..

PS.. buy a Honda CB300R .. because it will do exactly wot it says on the box..
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

No brainer mate. You already said you rode the meteor and liked it.

I wouldnt be sinking time and cash into a bike id already decided i didnt like if i were you.

Trade it in and get that new one sharpish.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daves gone riding wrote:
No brainer mate. You already said you rode the meteor and liked it.

I wouldnt be sinking time and cash into a bike id already decided i didnt like if i were you.

Trade it in and get that new one sharpish.


Actually, at the end of the days that's all that matters. You've had enough of the ER6, move on. Whether the Meteor was the right choice I'm sure you will tell us soon enough. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Prawny wrote:
I ride like a grandma, do approximately 35 miles a week on A and B roads, mostly under 60mph (deer about) and I’ve had my licence just under a year.


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motorcycling isn’t a hobby just a way to get to work and back that doesn’t require pedalling or spending £60 a week on parking.


Sounds like you need a YBR125.


I was going with a dullville actually.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is a Meteor 350 going to be reliable witout a great deal of input to keep it that way? I'm not knowledgeble about the build quality of modern Enfields. They srike me (maybe wrongly) as a Sunday afternoon potter bike.



Mine seems alright.

Admittedly I'm not doing a thousand miles a month in all weathers, but it doesn't look or feel like it's going to fall apart any second.

If I'm honest, the quality is way above what I was expecting at the price and that was probably the deciding factor when I bought it, if it had seemed a bit shonky, I would've given it a swerve.

There are some obvious signs of cost cutting (most people point to the suspension on Interceptors) but the basic bike is all there, not like some of the chinky offerings of recent history, which Enfields (unfairly, IMO) seem to get lumped in with.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 11 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: Fix or replace? Reply with quote

Prawny wrote:
My er6 has let me down yet again, sudden rev drop and death riding in to work yesterday

With other things that need doing (brakes are in need of attention asap anyway) it’s going to cost in the region on £600 to repair this time.

Money is tight and getting tighter, so I’ve just been and had a test ride on the most cost effective bike I can find. A brand new meteor 350.

I ride like a grandma, do approximately 35 miles a week on A and B roads, mostly under 60mph (deer about) and I’ve had my licence just under a year.

Tbh the Er6 shits me up a bit and I really enjoyed the laid back ride on the meteor.

Would I be daft swapping a fast naked for a slow ass cruiser?

For comparison the Kawasaki has done about 34k miles and was an ex riding school bike, wish I’d never bought it but was assuming that they would have actually looked after it, but I think it’s going to be a money pit. Meteor would be a brand new 22 plate with 3 years warranty.


Just an opinion - you only need to fix each problem once. Stick new brakes on the Kawasaki and it's got brand new brakes.

I guess it depends how much the Enfield is? It sounds more expensive to buy a new bike than to fix the old one? But I don't know for sure. If you sell the Er6 for good money and buy the enfield cheap, why not?
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