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You probably got a 1/10000 dodgy battery that some dick had dropped on the ground and put back on the shelf
It happens and you can get your money back, doesn't mean their all bad and all BCF recommendations are bullshit
Take everyone from the internet with a pinch of salt
And a bit of black pepper, because it's delicious
Motobatt are a pre-charged sealed lead type maintenance-free battery afaik ____________________ Fzr-600 1999 |
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| MattJ wrote: | I know nothing about batteries so can't comment at all on that, however, when you stalled, why couldn't you just bump start it? |
The battery on my SV failed - I thought it was discharged because you cant turn the headlights off, and I'd been doing a fair bit of testing when I was fitting a tail tidy. I jump started it, took it for a run, but had to stop for fuel. It wouldn't start again, so tried bump starting, to absolutely no avail. I've bump started many a carbureted bike but this was my first FI bike.
I'm not sure if there was sufficient power to run the fuel injection at the turnover rate I was able to get when bumpstarting. Mrs C had to come to my rescue with a set of jump leads. ____________________ '82 C50, '81 CB100, '84 GS125, '95 NTV650, '00 Bandit 600, '06 SV650, '56 Z1000, '89 NTV600
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| lihp |
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What is the battery voltage of the motobatt?
What was the charging voltage of the bike?
Additionally, what is the maximum current draw of the bike with all electrics on?
What is the current draw of the heated grips?
Is this above or below the rating of the battery you bought?
It is quite likely that a standard sized battery on an R1 won't have the capacity for heated grips (I know my R6 didn't) as they're made to be as light as possible, and putting in a larger battery for "extras" isn't part of their aim when developing a bike like the R1.
How old was the motobatt? Why did you change it?
Battery died? Put motobatt in? That died? My first thought would be that there's something wrong with something other than the battery.
The fact it started, rode, and then wouldn't restart when you stalled, says to me that it is not being charged, or something is draining it. Like a fault Reg/Rec
Batteries don't just drain instantly, the fact the battery is flat means it is not being charged. If the battery was faulty, it may lose it's charge within couple of hours, but definately not instantly, and not while riding also.
The bike shop has got a quick sale, like many others, and will probably sell your old battery on ebay |
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| woo wrote: | bought a multi meter first thing when i finished work on tuesday and have been checking the voltage every morning before i take the bike out and every evening when i get home.
as for sending it back i honestly CBA it cost me £40 which i aint gonna cry about and im not rich just CBA
ive contacted Busters via ebay and they offered to exchange it for another one but i just CBA
if it was a £100 battery then i would be arsed
i emailed them to let them know that the mottobatt battery they gave me has failed so that they are aware that one has actually failed but i also told them that i will be constantly checking my bikes charging rate to be sure that it was the battery and not either my regulator rectifier or my stator, and will let them know after two weeks if there is any further changes.
They were quick to respond and very helpful |
Then what the fuck are you complaining about?
Either you've got a naff battery which they are offering to replace FREE.
Or your charging system isn't working and you're blaming a battery for not charging from a system that isn't providing charge. ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
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Was there any funny cnuts Tooting at you then???
Yausa practically re-invented batteries.  ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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| sickpup wrote: |
Marjay I'm not actually here to babysit people I'm here for the camaraderie, if I can help people along the way and I do then good but when someone comes on to spit his dummy out I don't actually feel the need to help. |
There isn't much camaraderie in just rubbing peoples faces in it. If you don't want to help, don't comment, but effectively calling someone stupid is not going to help, or increase cameraderie or anything. It comes across as though you want to come on the forum to feel superior or to patronise people, which has nothing to do with camaraderie. I have no time for idiots too, but I don't think its entirely unreasonable that someone might conclude that the new battery they've fitted is at fault when they have a charging issue.
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I am a strong believer in people working things out for themselves and I will provide hints for them to do so instead of telling them outright, hopefully that way in future they may be able to work a problem out themselves as they have been taught to think not just taught to copy. |
I agree, but people won't learn how to think unless you give them a nudge in the right direction. Calling someone an idiot or patronising them with a "Why did you think that would work" post is a waste of time, effort and text. The only thing it appears to do is make you feel better about yourself.
Seriously Sickpup you have done this in the last probably ten or twenty Workshop replies I've read from you, with the odd exception and you just come across as a grumpy old bastard. I know you're not really like that so why do it?
Of course I occasionally reply to threads with a facepalm image or something, but in this case I don't think the conclusion that the battery was at fault was entirely unreasonable. I believe it to be wrong, but not unreasonable. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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I came across the motobatt in the ducati and ktm forums. A few of them were blaming sprag clutch failure due to the sluggish turnover caused by a weak battery.
I did some further searching and found a comprehensive 'Battery Cookoff'. Involved lots of battery abuse.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 338 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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