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Experiance..does it come with time on a bike or mileage?

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Ant
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think i'll go for millage, unless your unlucky and in your 2000 miles you come across loads of different situations.
I think it could also depend on where you ride tho, for example i do around 4000 miles on my bike in a year, on various different roads whereas if youre doing your 10000 miles and a lot of thats commuting (ie on the same roads) then that could also put a different angle on it?
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could argue that mileage in a range of vehicles counts for something.

If someone spends time driving a truck, vans, fast cars, slow cars, pulling caravans, riding fast bikes, slow bikes, tractors... then they should have a broader grasp on 'stuff' than someone who has racked up the same mileage on one vehicle and has never thought about the fact that other ones act differently.

Might not help them to control a rear wheel slide on a motorbike, but might help them avoid getting into the situation in the first place. Who knows.
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Teaman
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it comes with lots of different close calls in lots of different conditions,,,
riding the bike at night, in the rain, fog, snow(if your as daft as me)
commuting, filtering ,
sometimes you can clock up loads of miles and not learn a bloody thing then all of a sudden you go round a right hander hugging the lines and get your head taken off by something comming the other way..
(quote a story a copper friend of mine told me and the pics he showed , a guy went touring round europe for 3 months on his bike, came back to blighty and went under a low bridge,, anded up welded into the radiator grill of a cement mixer coming the other way.) just shows no ammount of experience can prepare you for some things,

You cant beat a bike safe course for showing up your mistakes,,,
mine were corners, i knew i could do them and my bike could it was just something i knew i was doing wrong, just didnt know how to sort it out,, now i am more confident and more aware of things and that in my eyes makes me more experienced.
im not a brilliant rider and theres a hell of a lot of things i still dont know. im safe 90% of the time and in control of things. also with loads of off road experience i tend to think more than 2 corners ahead of me.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, experienced at what?

The 'sunday rider' may actually be better at riding fast on A/B roads, while the commuting rider would be better at riding through town or in poor weather.

To take an extreme example, someone doing 1000 miles on track will probably get a lot more experience of a how a bike handles than someone that does 10,000 on the road.
However will have a lot less experience of how other things that happen in the 'real world' effect riding, like manhole covers, cars, etc.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done about 20k in just over 2 years of riding, both evening blasts and commuting. My dad would do a few hundred miles a year on the bike but he drives the car all the time. Although I may be able to throw it about a bit more, he would be the one who's less likely to end up on his hoop through not making rash juvenile mistakes like I would still make. Who knows.
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colin1
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had by lesson to pass a bike test, and my 'experience' of taking racing lines round bends rather than treating them as a slow manoeuver is frowned upon. So for passing a test my 'experience' is bad habits. However, having ridden in winter, i think shallow bend turns, instead of square turns are safer in some ways as there is less lateral force and if there is any slip, its easy to correct. I guess I shdnt maintain my speed though.
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ZZRman
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PostPosted: 01:56 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

marki wrote:
*1* Spent months in hospital, feels like I broke everything except my head, never managed to actually sell any of the bikes/ cars I've owned except for scrap, all my company cars go back damaged. I ride/drive like an idiot most of the time and rarely follow the speed limit.

*2* I would say I was a pretty experienced road user. Experience simply means I did it, but it doesn't mean I'm any good at it.

"Sound more like a windup to me" but if its true then here goes.

*1*Thanks for jacking up the insurance premiums and possibly causing injury to other road users, its just the sort of rider/driver we dont need on the roads, its also one of the main deciding factors that introduces stricter laws on bikes and bikers

*2* How about giving up using the raods all together and leaving it for the good bikers out there to enjoy, this way we dont have to sit for hours in traffic jams while they one day scrap up your remains with a shovel, I've seen it, it is gruesome...throw in your license, boxers do it, so can you...thats sad man, real sad.

But back on track age does play a big role and thats why insurance is cheaper as you get older, why else...
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