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PostPosted: 16:53 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Downgearing a GS500E Reply with quote

Anyone downgeared a GS500 before? Not too arsed about top speed, 80mph is about fine, I just want more acceleration and the ability to power wheelie Twisted Evil

A link to a calculator would be handy as well please Smile
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can power wheelie a gs500 ive done it on my cb bear it was very small and i did have my mate on the back with about 5 stone of shit in a ruck sack just tootle along in 1st and wap the throttle back (but you will need either a fat guy on the back OR 15 stone of lead) lol

EDIT, also i did give it a god tug on the bars
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

go two less teeth on the front. wemoto sells them you'll prbly still get close to your original top speed, it'll just be reving a bit higher
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

just be sure to keep a foot over the back brake. I'm no wheelie god but the first time "i got it up" Rolling Eyes it scared the living crap out of me and it seemed like the front wheel was 15ft up (though it was prob more like 12") if it comes up too far stamp on back brake. That'll bring it back down (and a new set of fork seals)
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby - ffs stop asking questions and ride the damn thing Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you realise what downgearing to 80mph would do to your fuel consumption? Razz
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Method wrote:
Toby - ffs stop asking questions and ride the damn thing Laughing


I'm going for a blast on friday I think if I can get the brakes sorted Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Maurice said; any motorways or A roads won't feel great with the engine revving at almost peak revs just to keep up with average traffic.

It may help you get the front up, but will make it even harder to keep it up as the revs will run out /very/ quickly.

You may get slightly better acceleration in first and second, but it'll probably end up that second is now equivalent to the old second, or whatever.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd barely feel a 1 or 2 tooth difference so go fairly extreme. 2 down and 4 up or something.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:58 - 19 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
I dropped mine down 2 teeth and it had a lot more acceleration, now its a few years ago but i lost 10MPH from 115 to 105 but i like the way it revd after that.

Done the same with my ZX6R and apart from throwing the spedo out i love the extra ummff of the line.

Just one more point though with a smaller front sproket the chain will have a tighter turn which results in increased wear on the chain.

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PostPosted: 20:53 - 19 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

so does going up on the back make more sense then?
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 19 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try the front first. Its cheaper, about 4-5 quid, and easier but causes chain wear.

If you like it then for a permanent fix by changing the rear, £20-£25ish.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 19 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compo wrote:
Hi
I dropped mine down 2 teeth and it had a lot more acceleration, now its a few years ago but i lost 10MPH from 115 to 105 but i like the way it revd after that.

You got 115 out of a Goose Confused
Think the best I got was 95 and the front went very wobbly.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

octane wrote:
Compo wrote:
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I dropped mine down 2 teeth and it had a lot more acceleration, now its a few years ago but i lost 10MPH from 115 to 105 but i like the way it revd after that.

You got 115 out of a Goose Confused
Think the best I got was 95 and the front went very wobbly.



You must have had a shit un then Laughing Or restrictors in. My 1990 Gs500e full Suzuki faring hit 115 no probelm day in day out till the front sprocket change.
I kept it for 10 years while the various race reps only when out on a sunny day.Only parted with her 2 years ago. Take a look at the pics, was still mint when it went.


Anyway is the goose not the 400cc version if so 95MPH might be right.
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby, wouldnt even bother changing gearing mate, on a GS500E with little over 45bhp, it wont make a difference. If it had been a 150bhp R1 or the likes then yeah go for it if you want better acceleration, but on a bike with so little power, you wont notice it and will just wear out the chain quicker.

As of speed on standard sprockets, ive had 125mph on the clocks of mine. Bearing in mind, there will be speedo error so take about 10% off what ever your clocks are reading for a more accurate measurement.

They are top end heavy and not made to wheelie. However if you hold revs at around the 5-6k mark and dump the clutch, you should get the front wheel in the air.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compo wrote:
You must have had a shit un then Laughing Or restrictors in. My 1990 Gs500e full Suzuki faring hit 115 no probelm day in day out till the front sprocket change.
I kept it for 10 years while the various race reps only when out on a sunny day.Only parted with her 2 years ago. Take a look at the pics, was still mint when it went.


Anyway is the goose not the 400cc version if so 95MPH might be right.

Man... guess mine is a shitter then.
Oh well.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

gixxer500 wrote:
Toby, wouldnt even bother changing gearing mate, on a GS500E with little over 45bhp, it wont make a difference.


You tried this then i have it makes a lot of difference.

gixxer500 wrote:
If it had been a 150bhp R1 or the likes then yeah go for it if you want better acceleration, but on a bike with so little power, you wont notice it and will just wear out the chain quicker.


You had first hand experience of downgearing a 150bhp bike then? On a 150bhp bike why would you want better acceleration Shocked

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As of speed on standard sprockets, ive had 125mph on the clocks of mine. Bearing in mind, there will be speedo error so take about 10% off what ever your clocks are reading for a more accurate measurement.



125MPH Really Very Happy Damm why did i bother with my Blade ZX9R ZX6R Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compo wrote:
You tried this then i have it makes a lot of difference.


Yes i have, ive also tried it with going teeth up at front and down at back as well. And i prefered the standard setup for both acceleration and top end speed.

Compo wrote:
You had first hand experience of downgearing a 150bhp bike then? On a 150bhp bike why would you want better acceleration


Ive had first hand experience of both downgearing and upgearing a fully race prepared GSXR 1000 K5 which was pushing out 150-160bhp at the rear wheel.

Compo wrote:
125MPH Really Very Happy Damm why did i bother with my Blade ZX9R ZX6R Evil or Very Mad


Upto you what bike you own. If you take into account the speedo error then that 125mph in real terms is actually around 113mph which is manufacturers published top speed. (Plus the fact that mine is modified).
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

gixxer500 wrote:


Ive had first hand experience of both downgearing and upgearing a fully race prepared GSXR 1000 K5 which was pushing out 150-160bhp at the rear wheel.


More info please! who own it? Who prepared it? Who raced it and in what series?

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