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PostPosted: 17:46 - 12 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry_MC21 wrote:
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..... lifes to short to be bitter and hold grudges.


just tell her your not interested in meeting her new fella, and that there is no reason for you to do so other than 'she wants you to'.



Well that's pretty much what I've done. Though the second option is interesting as well...

hardest thing for me will be staying as impartial as possible tomo when I go to see her folks....

yeah it gets more f'd up. I'm super closer to her folks, almost like their my own, in fact I see them more than my folks as mine live abroad and I usually only see them at Xmass if that.

Anyhoo her mum's go throat cancer and wont be round much longer so I'm off to see her, added bonus is the ride down to sussexs is awesome. But she'll see right through me if she asks me what I think of this decision and I say that I think it fantastic and I'm so happy for her. I can't just say that I couldn't give a toss can I ?? So I have to be as impartial as poss, and do my damndest to not fall into a pair of back stabbing slippers......

will update you when I'm back at work on Monday....
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 12 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just cause it is her mother, doesn't mean you can't be honest. Mothers can disagree with their daughters and you never know she might be feeling the same way as you.

Unlucky that her mother has throat cancer though.
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 12 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
Just cause it is her mother, doesn't mean you can't be honest. Mothers can disagree with their daughters and you never know she might be feeling the same way as you.

Unlucky that her mother has throat cancer though.


Sucks eh....

Yeah not too worried about her Mum, she's super, and very opinionated anyway. But if I don't stay impartial then it's very easy for me to be seen as a back stabber or all around git.

That kind of stuff spreads quickly and we have alot of close mutual friends.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry_MC21 wrote:
Or, you could always meet him, shake hands and say.... "crap in bed isn't she, but gives a dam good BJ!"... and see what his reaction is (and hers for that matter!).. Thumbs Up Wink


Best advice yet. Wink
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've changed my mind...

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PostPosted: 21:22 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: Shake hands or batter to a pulp? (bit grissley be warned Reply with quote

Whether you have feelings for your ex or not it would appear that you're showing classing signs of jealousy which you masquerade with the protective slant that you put on the whole story.

If she's happy with the situation (albeit a bit of a weird one!) why can't you just put all of your petty jealousy's aside, meet the bloke when he reappears and draw your own conclusions on the basis of your interaction with him - Simple.

colin1 wrote:
crafty bugger has just made sure he has a girlfriend to come home to.

I'd be interested to know why a bloke (well, one who's secure enough) would need a girlfriend to come home to - Most blokes I know would prefer to be a free agent without the ties of a relationship guilting them whilst on their travels.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay well away for your own sake, you obviousley still have feelings, shes moved on, start another chapter in your book called life.
Keeping contact for whatever reason will screw you up, I know, I've been there.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonboy22 wrote:
getting married to this feral atheist freak


I'd rather be an atheist than a god-believing wierdo.

I agree with Jon, it's none of your business.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 14 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You have history now and effectively you will never have a place for being a special friend. It just won't happen.


Could she be looking for your approval in some way?



how many other people has she talked about this like she has with you?

good luck.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 14 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: Shake hands or batter to a pulp? (bit grissley be warned Reply with quote

Steve H wrote:

I'd be interested to know why a bloke (well, one who's secure enough) would need a girlfriend to come home to - Most blokes I know would prefer to be a free agent without the ties of a relationship guilting them whilst on their travels.


Perhaps hes not the type to get guilty about what he gets up to on his travels, and wants her reserved for him when he comes home.

Steve H obviously knows honest blokes, who have no problem getting new girlfriends.
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you should keep your cards to your chest for the time being. Keep a watchful eye if you feel the need to look out for her, be there when she needs you. If you react now you will push her away and further into his arms. She may not see things she would normally see if distance is put between you. I went out with a guy once, it was really a rebound thing after being hurt, deep down I knew it would end badly but my friends turned their backs on me because they could see it before me. I then felt pressured to stay with him and things work out. It didnt and things were very difficult.

Thats my experience, so the important thing is to give the guy the benefit of the doubt (the travelling could have been booked for a long time) and only react when there is a solid reason to. Just be there for her incase she needs you.

Also I dont think a guy would get engaged just to have a girl on reserve for when he gets home. Traveling is about experiencing the world not women. He must have true feelings for her, doesnt mean he cant still have his own life. Some people are very independant. Try not to have any suspisions yet.

It may be that you do need space from here, or maybe not. Only you know how you feel and what you handle / want.

Goodluck.
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: Shake hands or batter to a pulp? (bit grissley be warned Reply with quote

jonboy22 wrote:
SOO if I do meet him, in April (when he comes back through the UK for a week)


I shouldn't worry, by April they'll have finished anyway.

You really think that after just three months, they've suddenly got engaged and it'll last the better part of a year before she sees him again, properly anyway?

She'll be single again by easter.

Then you can tell her you love her and want to marry her yourself.
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can be good mates with her, but not with her new bloke?

You need to fuck her right off outa your life, it sounds like you want to be her big brother now or something. She is big enough to look after herself, and im sure she can manage to determine on her own if the guy she is with is a tosser or a decent bloke.

You hanging around is never gonna make life easy or happy for you or her, and both of you must know this!
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well mixed bag of reactions I see, but again all valid and very insightful...so thanks.

Well the good news is I had an awesome ride down to East Sussex and an awesome ride back.

What happened when I was down there was a little surreal but it's what I expected....

It happened to be her little sister's birthday, so the whole family was there, both sisters, brother, brother's girlfriend, aunt and gran.

Not one word was uttered about the engagement, not even anything associated with it. The only time it was brought up was when I gave her a bottle of champagne to celebrate it. I didn't even hear the guy's name mentioned once.

It's almost as though everyone had agreed not to talk about it in front of me or something (which could be the case). Instead everyone was very nice an we just cracked on like we used to!?

So that's that hurdle cleared. All I have to do now is survive the holiday I'm going on with her and her sisters in two weeks!! Hehe, she asked me to come not the other way round.

I'm quite happy to adopt the position of saftey blanket should this all go Pete Tong in Xmonths time, I think that's sort of what she want's me around for I think,...maybe. But it aint stopping me from seeing other people.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ex is going out with a complete illeterate stoner gardener.

She met him on myspace.

Its creepy.

Shes said 100 times she still lvoes me, that sex is shit with him, and they argue constantly.

So whys she with him then?

Women. They are wankers.

If you were over her though you wouldnt care who she was knobbing. I miss my one night standing, i didnt care if the next night or the night before they were with my best mate, as they were just the outside of a sausage roll to me.

Now...

Women. Complete headfucks Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonboy22 wrote:
Not one word was uttered about the engagement, not even anything associated with it. The only time it was brought up was when I gave her a bottle of champagne to celebrate it. I didn't even hear the guy's name mentioned once.

It's almost as though everyone had agreed not to talk about it in front of me or something (which could be the case). Instead everyone was very nice an we just cracked on like we used to!?


That's because they don't know about it and it's probably all inside her head... Wink

jonboy22 wrote:

So that's that hurdle cleared. All I have to do now is survive the holiday I'm going on with her and her sisters in two weeks!! Hehe, she asked me to come not the other way round.


She still wants to go on holiday with you, even though she's engaged to someone else? And her new fiance is fine about that? Thinking Eh? Alarm bells would be going off in my head long before now. She either still wants you or is fucking with your head.

jonboy22 wrote:

But it aint stopping me from seeing other people.


And yet, clearly it is, otherwise you wouldn't be going on holiday with her... Wink
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
My ex is going out with a complete illeterate stoner gardener.

She met him on myspace.

Its creepy.

Shes said 100 times she still lvoes me, that sex is shit with him, and they argue constantly.

So whys she with him then?

Women. They are wankers.

If you were over her though you wouldnt care who she was knobbing. I miss my one night standing, i didnt care if the next night or the night before they were with my best mate, as they were just the outside of a sausage roll to me.

Now...

Women. Complete headfucks Rolling Eyes


Yeah there seems to be a high saturation of the headfuck variety in my life as well.

My best mate has a similar problem with his ex of four years, she's been dating some other poor sap for the last two years but keeps cheating on him with my mate (well until recently as my mates going steady with some other bird now).

But just to show you how messed up she is, she'll rock up in a rain coat with not alot on underneath, shag him, then ring him the next day saying she thinks she's pregnant and he's the only man she can ever imagine herself with.....ah wtf!?

Anyway my ex falls under the mentalist category and it took me 2 years to fully understand her and another 2 to get used to it, so good luck to her new man....3 months, sheesh he's going to get murdered.

Ooh and this made me giggle. You know how when you go out with someone for a long time interests and hobbies and lifestyles get swapped. Well she's got into bikes recently and after a quick spin on the back of the gixxer she wants to take her test. Her new man has Evil or Very Mad forbidden Evil or Very Mad her... What he doesn't know is that she's also the most determined nutter I've even known and when I asked her how she's going to get around it, she just said he would have "deal with it, he can't stop me doing what I want".......cue music "there may be trouble a-head...."

hehehe....
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonboy22 wrote:
"deal with it, he can't stop me doing what I want".......cue music "there may be trouble a-head...."

hehehe....


Yes she seems the mental type.

But im agreeing with sickpup's take on this. Sounds like shes just doing this for attention or something.

My ex has been with her new fella longer then she was with me, and yet she spent the first 3 months straight begging me to go back out with her. Literally 'i love you, but i have to go cos xxxx will be round in a minute'.

Women. All total psychos.

And yet somehow i still miss being with her...
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
jonboy22 wrote:
"deal with it, he can't stop me doing what I want".......cue music "there may be trouble a-head...."

hehehe....



And yet somehow i still miss being with her...


Oooh that's it right there.....

See when you break up and go away hating the other person for whatever reasons, makes everything alot easier.

When you miss them, well things get a little messier. Heck I confess hands up that I miss mine too but what do you expect after 4 years.

So I'm taking the advice of staying away unless approached. I think it's safer like that.....She can try and grab all the attnetion she likes but it'll only be detrimental to her marriage I think....
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonboy22 wrote:
but it'll only be detrimental to her alledged marriage I think....

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PostPosted: 13:56 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
Shes said 100 times she still lvoes me, that sex is shit with him, and they argue constantly.

So whys she with him then?


And you believe that!?

What she really means is..... his knob is twice the size of yours and they are at it like rabbits every time they see each other cause she cant get enough of it. She just doesn't want to rub your nose in it or make you feel bad.

Sounds like she's one of these girls that always has to have a b/f.

Confused

But yeah, psycho's, the lot of em! Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry_MC21 wrote:

Sounds like she's one of these girls that always has to have a b/f.



That i'll agree with. The rest, knowing her i doubt.
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get out now, before you end up shagging her on holiday and paying for a fuckling for the rest of your life.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahahah, fuckling, more like fucktard if it's anything like me.

She wanted (still wants I guess) 3+ kids and at the time I said she was out of her tree. She comes from a big family and so does her new guy rather coincidentally......

Anyway I couldn't knob her now that she's engaged, christ I'm not that shallow......give me some credit.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 15 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonboy22 wrote:
Anyway I couldn't knob her now that she's engaged, christ I'm not that shallow......give me some credit.


You're going on holiday with an ex who is engaged to someone else, how am I to know where your line is?
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