Petrol Stations & Mobile Phone

[Kickstart]

Hi

Seems that the fire risk from using a mobile in a petrol station may be non existant:-

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/4366337.stm

All the best

Keith
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[Bendy]

I saw a prog once when they put a load of mobile phones in a caravan, actually sitting in bowls of petrol, doused the 'van in petrol, basically made it as fumey as possible, then retreated to a safe distance and rang the phones.


Nothing happened.

[0ni]

Brainics it was!

On the same show they proved that a guy dancing abount in nylon clothes in a plastic bucket could blow the same caravan up!
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[Black Knight]

I've always been dubious about this too.

I think it was the situation that somone used a mobile and caught fire once, and since then they've adopted a better safe than sorry attitude.

I posted about this on a car forum once. Apparantly there was a TV show which conducted an experiment.
They filled a caravan with petrol, completley doused it. They put about 30 phones all round the vanand set them all ringing. Nothing
Then they connected a wire from the van to a guy in a polyester top 200 yards away. He rubbed his top and touched the wire, BOOM!

[Black Knight]

Doh - far too slow!

[El_Bandido]

apparently the big old 80's mobiles used to cause a lot of static or something. Modern phones arent anywhere near as bad. my phone rang in the petrol station yesterday and nothing set on fire

[stinkwheel]

The real reason they don't like you using them is because it interferes with the telemetry on their pumps and can make the payment system go haywire.

They used to complain about the same thing when people fitted burners (signal amplifiers) to their CB radios back in the 80's, it used to bleed through the speakers in your car and such, wreaked havoc with automatic pumps. Whilst it might be possible to induce enough current in a metal object to throw an arc using radio waves, everything in a petrol station is earthed to within an inch of its life.

If there was such a fire risk in petrol stations I am damned sure you wouldn't be allowed to run an internal combustion engine in them. My motorcycle produces eighteen electrical sparks per second.
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[fuzz]

What about listening to JazzFM while filling up?
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[mad-wolfie]

OK techie moment.

A lot of the warnings went up long before digital phones came about - around 10 years or so back when phones were analogue based. Digital phones of course generate a different form of radio wave which isn't as strong as the analogue waveform & operates at a much higher frequency, well out of the old analogue signal.

In a nutshell using an analogue transmitter of any kind can clear the information on the petrol pumps - hence why they stop them. I found this out once when i was in a petrol station & someone shouted me up on the CB i had in the car... like a nump i replied & then all the pumps cleared & hit zero.

Another reason of course is the fact if you operate any kind of electrical switch (including a button on a phone) or make electrical contact - even plugging a phone into a charger - it can cause a spark & possibly ignite the fuel spirit in the air.

one think i never get over though is that you have to turn your phone off if you go into a hospital (for similar reasons - it wipes the info on the machines & plays havoc with the readings) yet i did some work for hospital radio a few years back & found out there transmitter mast was mounted on the roof of the old telephone exchange smack in the middle within the hospital grounds.

[stinkwheel]

[PsychoHippy]

The 'offical' answer we give to Joe public when asked about this, is that people tend to get distracted when talking on the phone, and lets face it, getting distracted when filling anything with a potentionally explosive subsance is a BAD idea.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Dragging a thread from the dead, but closely related.

Video of someone filling up and adjusting their clothing.

https://www.pei.org/static/

All the best

Keith
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[Jack_Cheese]

Re: the above video... Mythbusters Proved that re-entering a car during refueling was likely to cause a static discharge at the end of the fuel pump, in turn causing an arc and possibly an explosion.

The reason behind the phones being banned was exactly as stinkwheel said. They interfered with the counters, and petrol stations lost money.

jack
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[colezxr]

yer i was accsurly told off last night for txting while sitting next to the pump, the guy came out and asked me to move away from the pump, so i moved. but the thing that gets me is that you cant txt infront of the pump but you can where the main valves are to refile their underground tanks, surly thats where the more fumes come out isnt it
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[Weedy]

Maybe shell are trying to blow all their employees to kingdom come!

[colezxr]

or maybe they want to prove that their optimax realy can give you big performance upgrades by sending you flying to the moon
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[Weedy]

It is against the petroleum licencing act to use a mobile phone anywhere on the forecourt, that includes next to the fuel valves!

The guy should have asked you to leave the forecourt/kiosk completely or asked you not to use your phone whilst there!

(As was said in What's Eating Gilbert Grape?) Boom Boom, Match in the gas tank!!

[doggone]

If you receive a text in a vehicle with the radio tuned to an AM station, you can hear interference as it receives - I can imagine this doing something undesireable in a hospital setting.,