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Cruiser
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 19 Feb 2007    Post subject: Bandit servicing Reply with quote

hey, ive got a 2001 bandit 6, faired

jus wonderd wat sort of things need to be done in a full service?
it went in a garage last year (12,000miles ago) for a full service (£270), but ever since then ive beeen changing oil, filters, and plugs reguarly myself.
But think its due for another service before i rack up approx another 15k by the end of the yr, but not sure wat things rly i need to do apart from wat ive been doing.. any help appreciated, its on 30k now

cheers Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 19 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

At those mileages the extras you should be thinking about are valve clearances and carb synch, if it wasn't done last year also change the brake fluid and fork oil that's usually overlooked and worth doing as the old is propably getting on a bit now, it's not much of a job. Other than that just keep on top of it making sure the cables , controls etc are well lubed, no notchiness or play in steering, wheel, and swingarm bearings. and the old Bandit chesnut of keeping the calipers and pins clean.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 19 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ta mate, so is the carb sync the same as carb balancing? yeh most of the bike is in good condition, one of the front callipers noeeds to be rebuilt so will get that done same time as valve clearances! thanks Very Happy umm soz bout the lack of knowledge... but what do u mean by the pins?
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 20 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep synch(ronising) = balancing.
Bandit and a lot of other Suzukis rear calipers are notorious for the 2 pad retaining pins seizing in the caliper, it's the way the caliper is fixed that leaves it open to all the shit thrown up. Every few months or so and more in the winter you should take the pins out and regrease them to prevent it. It doesn't stop the brakes working but you can have real problems replacing pads when the pins are welded in. There are tried and tested methods of getting them out if you do get problems Cool but better to prevent it in the first place, it's only a 10-15 minute job to keep on top of them and saves a lot of hassle.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 20 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike has been serviced a few times over the past few years.
It was previously brought from a Littlehampton garage from the last owner - Would they service it before she brought it?
Also, its only done around 3k miles since march last year - Worth a service? Or shall I just change the oil/filter ect?

On another note Bazza - The oil, you fill to the midway mark min-max. When the engine runs, the oil disappears. Stop, the oil comes back into place. All fine?
I put in 1 liter of 4t oil 3 weeks ago - now its dry again - But I have no oil leak Question
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 20 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They all say they service a bike before they sell it Rolling Eyes ....but it's better if you do it yourself as well then you KNOW it's been done.
You are always checking the sight glass with it on the centre stand aren't you Wink
The oil goes round the engine when it's running so the level goes down, it's fine as long as you're between the min-max marks when it's been stopped for a bit so it's all drained back into the sump.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 20 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You are always checking the sight glass with it on the centre stand aren't you


New one on me ... the oil level should be checked when the bike is on both wheels and held upright.

Putting it on the centre stand will tip the bike up at the back and forwards ... therefore the oil will move to the front of the engine, giving a false level!!

All the best ... Barry
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 20 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

BanditsHigh wrote:
Putting it on the centre stand will tip the bike up at the back and forwards ... therefore the oil will move to the front of the engine, giving a false level!!

All the best ... Barry


That's fine... if you've got long arms and can balance the bike without it falling over while you look and we are talking Louise here and it was mainly aimed at her having it on the side stand Laughing Being on the centrestand doesn't that make that much difference it's only a few degrees out. it makes a whole lot more difference if it's not upright.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 20 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case what you need to do is put the bike on the centrestand and measure the gap under the rear tyre. Now find a piece of wood that is half that gap in thickness. When you want to check the oil level simply wheel the front tyre onto that plank of wood about 8 inches, then put it on the centrestand. The wheels will now be near-enough to level to check the oil.

Louise yes it's normal for the oil to disappear from the sight-glass when the engine is running. The gearbox shafts and crankshaft fling it all over the inside of the engine.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 20 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bezzer wrote:
Yep synch(ronising) = balancing.
Bandit and a lot of other Suzukis rear calipers are notorious for the 2 pad retaining pins seizing in the caliper, it's the way the caliper is fixed that leaves it open to all the shit thrown up. .


The ones on my GSXR1100 (same caliper) were so bad i had to junk the caliper. I suspect i was the ifrst person to look at them in 20 years......
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 20 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bezzer wrote:


That's fine... if you've got long arms and can balance the bike without it falling over while you look and we are talking Louise here and it was mainly aimed at her having it on the side stand Laughing Being on the centrestand doesn't that make that much difference it's only a few degrees out. it makes a whole lot more difference if it's not upright.

It's not that difficult! I'm quite small and I can manage to hold the old Bandit up for a few moments! Get someone else to hold it for you while you look at it. As said using the centre stand will give you an off reading.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 20 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:

It's not that difficult! I'm quite small and I can manage to hold the old Bandit up for a few moments! Get someone else to hold it for you while you look at it. As said using the centre stand will give you an off reading.


You're nitpicking dude, look at a Bandit centrestand, the sight glass is within a couple of inches of the centrestand pivot, the few degrees it's off level on the stand hardly shows at the glass and has little effect on the reading. Then if you want to be pedantic there's the issue of all the jacked up Bandits, probably more of them than standard ones, they're not level to start with.
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 20 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bezzer wrote:


You're nitpicking dude, look at a Bandit centrestand, the sight glass is within a couple of inches of the centrestand pivot, the few degrees it's off level on the stand hardly shows at the glass and has little effect on the reading. Then if you want to be pedantic there's the issue of all the jacked up Bandits, probably more of them than standard ones, they're not level to start with.

Calm down! I understand there are always instances where you won't get an accurate result!
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 21 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bezzer wrote:
Jon B wrote:

It's not that difficult! I'm quite small and I can manage to hold the old Bandit up for a few moments! Get someone else to hold it for you while you look at it. As said using the centre stand will give you an off reading.


You're nitpicking dude, look at a Bandit centrestand, the sight glass is within a couple of inches of the centrestand pivot, the few degrees it's off level on the stand hardly shows at the glass and has little effect on the reading. Then if you want to be pedantic there's the issue of all the jacked up Bandits, probably more of them than standard ones, they're not level to start with.


It may be nit picking but he's correct Smile

As for jacked up bandits ... you check the oil level before you change the tie bars and then do a comparison afterwards ... then you know the difference Thumbs Up

We were both just pointing out the correct way tis all Very Happy

All the best ... Barry
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