the law.....33bhp certified?

[snapperslappe...]

to save me a bit of cash, i'm getting the bandit restricted by my mech, but not using the F1 kit, thus no certificate and no entry onto the database.

I am getting the bike dynographed tommorow, and will have the readout stating the made power of the machine.

However, the guy at Millenium Motorcycles told me that i must have the certificate to be legit, which will cost me £150.

What exactly is the law on this? My insurance didnt want any proof of restriction, and if the bike is 33bhp, am i legal, or do i need that bit of f'cking paper?

[MarJay]

[Mooncatt]

exactl marjay spot on
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[snapperslappe...]

cheers,

i dont know for sure, but i think he was the manager/owner of the dealers, and they possably make a commision on the kits, so he's after a bit of crafty cash......

do you reacon the local cop shop would know their onions on this bit of biking law?

[skida]

If it is restricted and you have a dyno printout showing 33bhp or less you should be ok. The only time the police would want proof is if they were doing you for something or possibly if you had an accident.

Also, if the mech gives you a receipt for fitting a 33bhp restrictor kit I'm sure that would do as proof.
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[V2]

im sure its up to the police to prove your bike isnt 33bhp, if they have suspicion its not they can seize it and test it, innocent until proven guilty

[janie]

this subject is a very grey area of the law................as long as you have the bike restricted to 33bhp and have a dyno for proof....then your ok....its up to the police to prove otherwise....
A friend of mine came off her 400 that was restricted to 33bhp and the insurance and police didn't even check to see what licence she held... A or A1........they just paid out and collected the broken one....so i wouldn't worry about it too much, you have done all you can to prove the bike is done...............just go out on it and enjoy...............

[MarJay]

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Dyno printout FTW. The law doesn't state anything about a certificate being required.
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[mod661]

[Kara]

[snapperslappe...]

so as long as the date on the dyno co-encides with the insurance cover policy start date ( or a few days after...), all should be cool?

sweet as

mod661: have you already got a dynograph readout/ certificate of 33bhp-ness? if the date on the graph was after you got pulled ect ect ect, would'nt you still get slapped with a no insurance charge thing?

[Sephiroth]

There is no definate form of proof, it just has to be 33bhp. Get me?

[skida]

[steveh]

been stopped a few times for speeding and let off, only once out of god knows how many times was my 2 year restriction mentioned, and that was only to find out wether or not i was aloud 6 points or 12, nothing ever said about 33bhp, even have one of the plates as a key ring

im out of my restriction in a few months, never been in, but i had a f1 kit put in it so i have the paperwork.

saying that, i only got it restricted because my insurance wanted me too, and it was the cheapest around at the time.
100 squid, or get banned for 12 months and your insurance be sky high.

Get the paper work, take them out, least then you have somthing to fall back on.


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[Andy C]

You will be fine unrestricted unless you crash and the police decide to impound your bike. If you have no proof at this stage they start coming to your house and asking lots of annoying questions.

If you have got it 33bhp and even have a dyno readout you should be fine. I have spoke with policemen about this matter and when taking about restrictions no one ever mentions FI Restrictors and they were legal binding, which i took as meaning they arnt
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[snapperslappe...]

well, damn and blast.

the carb spacers from the 400 wont work in the 6

does anyone know the dimensions of the restrictors for the bandit 6 (cheers steveh, top advice btw)...... As a bit of bodgery may be in order, as E Bay seems to be dry at the moment.





edit: sorted now, ready for graphing tomorrow.....get in....legality

[kawakid]

I never risked it and was always 33bhp .

I'm one of these people that get stopped at customs and asked to go to a back room
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[Kara]

[binge]

What are the odds on an insurance asking for proof of 33bhp. Like a copy of a dynograph?

[mod661]

[TheDonUK]

My restriction runs out in a couple of months also, i have never restricted my bikes, and currently i have the same bike as you a Red '97 Bandit 6 N,

For the record as said there is no legal method of proof for restriction...

I once got stopped on marble arch by police for i assume blasting up park lane and learning a bit far round marble arch himself... This copper really dident like me, and was the worse case scenario, he specifically wrote on the producer "Proof of 33bhp resitriction", i went to a mechanics and paid him a tenner to write a letter on headed paper from his garage along the lines of "So and so has had (X) restrictor kit fitted on (date)" with part numbers etc, when you hand your producer in, it is to a police secretary, who very likely knows nothing about motorcycles, especially the specific 33bhp laws, needless to say i had no problems with the above situation...

A while back i was stopped and given 3 points speeding on my bandit at an average speed of 98.7mph (lucky to get the 3 points only) in a 70, the guy was a traffic police who obveously knew his bike laws, and we both know i was going faster than that, nothing was mentioned about the fact a restricted bandit couldent do that speed...

I would say dont get it restricted, for the police to im pound your bike and test for this (by dynoing it) you are either gonna have to wheelie past a police station, in the process knocking down and killing a police baby, while flipping the bird to its parents inside the station, or when asked if the bike is restricted (if at all) reply yes, while laughing like a looney.

The bandit isnt that powerful and it will go a long way to you enjoying it if you dont, but it is a risk and if you are one of those absolute "must follow the law to the letter" then go ahead, but as said before in this case the letter of the law specifies no method of proof of 33bhp... a dyno definately would do, as would in some cases a simple letter from a friendly mechanic...

[bish777]

Ther is no requirement to prove your bike is restricted nor has there ever been.

The police must arrange for it to be tested if they have any suspicions.

Unless of course they catch you doing 160mph up a ring road when thats proof enough.......
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[JAMSXR]

Dont bother with restrictions theare for fools, just carry your docs with you and that way they dont start checking up on you.
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