I was thinking...

[Darkside]

On my journey from Leicester to London and back in not too good conditions, i was thinking do tyres wear out less when there is water on the road?? Also on long haul journeys I usually carry a bike first aid kit(for humans ) on me, now in some countries i.e.; Germany this is compulsory.
Do you think this should be the case here in the UK? Personally I think it should. The Hein Gericke one is the size of half a sheet of A4 and bulk is pretty much non existent, i know for a major accident it would be pretty useless but for everything else
I'm sure there will be differing opinions, please discuss!
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

If you make people carry first aid kits you would also need to make training part of the driving test or they could do more harm than good.

I wouldn't fancy some do-gooder moving me if I had spinal injuries because they wanted to put me in the recovery position. etc.
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[pwntifex]

I wouldn't fancy someone sort of randomly draping me with gauze and bandage tape, either.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

I trust medics and the ST John's ambulance guys, but I don't know if you could put that sort of trust into a randomer. To be stereotypical, but could you imagine some 17 y/o's taking it seriously anyway?
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[Darkside]

B Bu but.....What about my point on tyres? Do they wear less in the wet??
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

In theory i guess because they are running much cooler, but everyone rides slower in the wet so that skews the results. You would need to test at exactly the same speeds and loads in wet and dry.

and the point about the first aid kits is a good idea in theory, but in practice i'm not sure if it could work.
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[Darkside]

hmmm I would have thought some tyre company would have tested it out. But on the first aid kit issue, surely if you had a wound gushing blood and you have a kit on you surely its common sense to whip out the absorbable bandage and apply pressure to the wound? Or am i overestimating the capabilities of some folk?
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[TheDonUK]

I dont know about the first aid kits, its gotta be more usefull for someone else than yourself.

If you have a major accident, you are probably gonna be alot worse for wear than a few bandages and some gauze can sort out, likewise if you sever an artery its prolly game over.

Either way if you are able to move and get your first aid kit out its not likely to be lifethreatening? And if your not i take it the kit would be under your seat, is whoever is first on the scene gonna 1 know how to open your seat, two that there is a kit there and 3 how to use it...

Good idea on group rideouts but i cant really see th eneed for it to be compulsory... ignoring the personal freedom argument...

[phill_sumner]

less friction on the road with wet tyres hence less grip = less tyre wear in the wet
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[Tattoo Artist]

i severd two arteries in my arms and am still here xx

[ram_doom]

I think a course on first aid specifcally for motorcycle accident victims at the roadside, should be incorporated into the test. It does scare me a bit that I someday may need the knowledge that can keep somebody alive until an ambulance arrived, and wont be able to do anything about it resulting in an unecessary death
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[Ariel Badger]

Severed arteries are messy but managable Elevate , Pressure and an Ambulance.
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[keyser soze]

i just carry superglue with me.

[Psychonaut]

Tyres may wear out faster due to slip/then grip, one thing I do know is that you are more likely to get a puncture in bad weather (both my punctures were when it was pissing it down) due to the water helping the object to ease itself into the tyre.
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[Kal]

I couldn't fit a first aid kit on my bike...
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[numpty]

Its a good idea imo.

Although I could just see this happening now, I crash and break my leg, a little old woman hobbles up, gets out her first aid kit, puts a plaster on it and says 'you'll be fine its only a graze' then drives off again.
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[G]

I always believed that tyres wear less in the wet, however I read an artical in a bike magazine a while ago suggesting the opposite is in fact what happens.
Cold tyres do not always mean less wear - see how a tyre used for track work gets 'cold tear' where a lot more rubber is ripped off, compared to someone with perfect suspension and tyres up to tempreture who can get much longer tyre life running on tyres the correct temp.

I believe the explanation for the tyres wearing quicker when wet was something to do with water causing more friction as it and bits of grit got into the surface of the rubber, causing it to wear against it's self/the grit.

[Kal]