Imports!!

[Mark312]

Hi all, We bought a bike from a instructor late last year, who said it was an Indian Import. All went fine until the MOT last week. The dealer had trouble obtaining parts, so I tried a little help from the internet.

David Silver spares emailed back after I sent him vin number and Engine Number, to the effect that the engine number is not a recognised Honda number, and said it looks like it's not a Honda after all! The carbs are stamped Shang-Hai, which implies China to me, and although I'm no expert, the bike does look every inch like a Honda CB125T.

Anyone any ideas where I should go with this? My wife needs the bike to gain practice before putting in for her DAS, and we need to get it through it's MOT. It failed on a faulty indicator switch and a rear shock.

Help please!!
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Currently Moto Guzzi 750 Strada, Moto Guzzi V35 Florida, previously Honda CB125T, RD250LC, RD80MX

[Kal]

You should be able to fit Honda rear shocks and switchgear straight on. I've got a pair of shocks hanging up in the garage off of a Korean CG copy I broke that are identical to the ones on the CG I've got - if you lived closer I'd let you have them.

You may have to change the connectors on the swtichgear but generally speaking switchgear is switchgear is switch gear and any Honda 125 switchgear should fit.

I'm a bit concerned that it needs new shocks after only 13000miles though and I'd be inclinded to get the headlight open and confirm there isnt a short before investing in new switchgear that may not fix the problem.

I'm not convinced the bike you have there isnt a Honda - if memory serves the CG in my garage has Chinese carbs on too.
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Kal...
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1984 GB250 Clubman,1983 CB250N Superdream, 1999 GPZ500S

[Mark312]

Thanks Kal. When MOT'd they didn't fail it on the shock, but after investigating the electrics they later told me that they had decided the rear shock was in need of replacement also. When I went to pick the bike back up, he showed me how they decided, which consists of pushing the bike down on the rear and judging how springy it is. Really scientific..... I'm inclined to get the switchgear sorted, and take it elsewhere for a retest,and see if they think any different.

Someone will probably now tell me that I can't do that.....
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Currently Moto Guzzi 750 Strada, Moto Guzzi V35 Florida, previously Honda CB125T, RD250LC, RD80MX

[Kickstart]

Hi

Shock should be fairly easy.

Can you post some pics of the bike?

All the best

keith
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Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing

[Kal]

eBay is your friend...


However David Silver can supply switchgear for £15

And there is nothing to stop you getting a retest at another station.
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Kal...
I Like To Hoon It Hoon It I Like To Hoon It Hoon It I Like To Hoon It Hoon It Ya Like To (HOON IT!).
1984 GB250 Clubman,1983 CB250N Superdream, 1999 GPZ500S

[Mark312]

Helpful Helpful people.

May your Karma increase greatly.
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Currently Moto Guzzi 750 Strada, Moto Guzzi V35 Florida, previously Honda CB125T, RD250LC, RD80MX

[Mark312]

Pictures...

By the way David Silver spares said the engine number is not a Honda engine no configuration, and someone from the Honda owners club forum said that if it doesn't have Honda stamped on the engine, then it's not a Honda.
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Currently Moto Guzzi 750 Strada, Moto Guzzi V35 Florida, previously Honda CB125T, RD250LC, RD80MX

[Kickstart]

Hi

Definatly looks like a normal late CB125T. Switchgear looks like normal Honda pattern. Same for the throttle grips.

All the best

Keith
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Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing

[Kal]

We have an elderly CM125 in the garage. The CM used the same basic engine as the CB125.

As you can see your engine is pretty much as it should be. I really wouldn't worry about it.

Part of the problem might jut be that it is an import - If I read my Haynes correctly Honda stopped importing them into Britain in 1988 - if your frame reference number follows on then it should be something like JC06-5300002

Hondas don't always have Honda on the engine casing - I've got a few Hondas in the garage and the only ones I can see with Honda stamped/cast into the engine is the CM and the CX - even then its just bolt on plates.
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Kal...
I Like To Hoon It Hoon It I Like To Hoon It Hoon It I Like To Hoon It Hoon It Ya Like To (HOON IT!).
1984 GB250 Clubman,1983 CB250N Superdream, 1999 GPZ500S

[meyrick]

I don't want to worry you unnecessarily, but my supposedly brand new CB125T blew up after about 5000 miles (engine seized). Thankfully (for me) I had sold it on by then, but the poor bloke who bought it then had the same issue where he found out that it wasn’t really a CB125T after all. They are pretty much perfect copies, but the guts are made of chewing gum and sticky backed plastic.

I would patch it up, eBay it and get a CG125 pronto

[teampots]

well ive got good news and bad news, it is and it isnt a Honda it is a Jialing-Honda CB125t

look familiar ? first image

click here

dont worry it is a honda just that its made under liscence by the looks of things

jialing honda webby

look at the bottom post in this link

this could be the reason why your frame and engine numbers arent recognised as honda ones but still it should mean that most CB125t parts should fit
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Current - Fazer 600
Prev - Bandit x2 (Killed) CB400 (Superfour) CBR125
Currently Restoring - Kawasaki S1 250 Triple (Slowly but surely)

[Mark312]

Extremely useful info, thanks guys.

Our plan - get through the DAS, then get rid. 350 Guzzi waiting for repairs then there'll be no more need for a 125.
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Currently Moto Guzzi 750 Strada, Moto Guzzi V35 Florida, previously Honda CB125T, RD250LC, RD80MX