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PostPosted: 17:25 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Biker shot dead on M40 motorway. Reply with quote

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M-way closed after biker murdered
A motorway is closed in both directions in Warwickshire after a motorcyclist was murdered, police have said.

The man was travelling south on the M40, between junctions 13 and 12, at 1420 BST, when the incident took place.

West Midlands Ambulance said they found the man with serious injuries, but he died at the scene. Police are treating the death as murder.

The motorway is closed in both directions and is expected to remain so for up to six hours.

It is closed southbound between junction 14, Warwick, and 12, Gaydon, and northbound between 12 and 13, Bishops Tachbrook.

Police are appealing for any motorists travelling on the M40 who may have witnessed the incident to contact them.

An incident room has been set up at Warwickshire Police headquarters.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/6943213.stm


Not sure if it's related, but that's near the Bulldog.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shot dead??

Maybe I am blind but I can't find anything about the biker being shot!
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: biker shot dead Reply with quote

not good,

could it be revenge ?

as we are aware, well some of are. the outlaws MC and the hells angels MC are not really that friendly towards one an onother.

could this be a war between the clubs.

i hope not we bikers get enough hassel as it is.

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PostPosted: 18:04 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently it was on the radio he was shot, my Dad's stuck in the resultant mess on the M1.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ppeaster wrote:
Shot dead??

Maybe I am blind but I can't find anything about the biker being shot!


Said on the news on the radio that it was a shooting. You're right - it doesn't say that in the article.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://news.uk.msn.com/biker_killing.aspx
Does in this one. Poor guy
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it interesting that he was shot coming back from the bulldog bash...

Could he have upset the Angels perchance?
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:51 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1490294.stm

This is not the first time this same incident happened except this guy survived.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well uncovered - bonus points for you! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

he did get shot
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Rolling Eyes

I'm not exactly sure what is meant by that, but as you already know I'm not the worlds expert on patch clubs.

The Hells Angels do have a reputation whichever way you look at it, and the Bulldog Bash is well known to be 'self policing'. I've heard rumours of the policing methods too.

OK, so maybe I'm wrong, but if I am, how come its so unwise to upset a Hells Angel?

Instead of posting a single smiley, might it not be better to enlighten us uneducated masses?
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The late night news mentioned the Bull Dog bash.

The "news" said it could be bike gang fued.


Anyways, its shocking news and i hope it doesn't have any consequences for us (nomal) bikers!


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PostPosted: 23:00 - 12 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

To expand on Hellkat's Rolling Eyes a bit:

MarJay wrote:
I find it interesting that he was shot coming back from the bulldog bash...


Nobody knows if he was coming back from the Bash, that has not been confirmed but it was mentioned as a possibility in some of the news reports. There may or may not be a connection.

MarJay wrote:
Could he have upset the Angels perchance?


He might have been a drug courier. Or he might have been shagging his neighbour's wife. Or it might be a case of mistaken identity. Or he may have come across a random nutter who didn't like being overtaken. All equally as likely.

The possibilities are endless, and at the moment speculation is useless as very little information has been released.

At the end of the day a biker has died and tonight a family is missing a member. Perhaps spare them a thought and leave the speculating until more info has been released?

RIP un-named rider. Sad
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PostPosted: 08:25 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

babyyam wrote:
At the end of the day a biker has died and tonight a family is missing a member. Perhaps spare them a thought and leave the speculating until more info has been released?


You're right, this is definitely the most important bit.

Thing is, while we're on this topic it does (for me) raise the question of what we mean by 'biker killed'. Although we do not know the facts it is likely that this was not an accident, that his death was planned and as a result of something (e.g. criminal/gang involvement).

Based on this speculation, I wouldn't describe this man as a "biker", just as someone sadly murdered as a result of the life he leads.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC website says the police are following 'biker gang' leads as a 'strong line of enquiry'.

I'm not normally one to indulge in speculation about things like this, I was just saying what a lot of people are thinking. To some extent I'm playing devils advocate.

The BBC seem to be thinking that way too (in its own bigotted way - see attachment).

I didn't say this wasn't a terrible tragedy, I just think that the Hells Angels was started as effectively an outlaw gang. It has that reputation, and originally thrived on that very reputation. If Hells Angels UK are so desperate to distance themselves from that reputation, then why still use the HA name? Its either because there is still genuine criminal activity involved, or because they want to bathe in the reputation of an outlaw gang. Probably most of the people in the UK who watch the news will make a link like that. It may be incorrect, but it will be a common assumption.

If they are all fluffy bunnies, why not change the name to 'The fluffy bunnies MC'?

I also dislike people simply posting the Rolling Eyes smiley without explaining why they might be rolling their eyes! Wink

Of course, my thoughts do go out to the family of this person, however what is an internet forum for, if not for speculation?

To reiterate, Its a terrible tradgedy, but probably 80% of those watching the news will hear "Shot" "Bulldog Bash" and "Hells Angels" and think exactly what I posted above.

And you know what? I WANT you to prove me wrong. I want to be told that all patch clubs are actually all sweetness and light.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard this first late last night (Sunday) as away for the weekend.

My missus and myself sat in the car after catching the end of the news. Announcement was something like police close the M40 after shooting a motorcyclist. First reaction was, "the police are really cracking down on speeding then". I know, a glib response to a half heard news story, but it did sound like the police shot the guy! Only times the police tend to shoot people is if they're waiving guns around themselves or are suspected terrorists.

Next thought was that it was maybe connected to a shooting the other week where the shooter was said to be on a motorcycle.

Only on this morning's news do I get the full story.

The 'biker-gang' angle seems IMO to be an easy hook for the media to hang things on. I really hope it's something a little simpler.

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PostPosted: 10:14 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems strange for a biker gang to gun down a fellow biker... from a car...
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

maurice wrote:
Apparently it was on the radio he was shot, my Dad's stuck in the resultant mess on the M1.



Yeh, and that Canadian was shot on the leg last year.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Virgin Media website says the man was returning from the bulldog bash, and that he himself was a Hells Angel.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah reading over on VD apparently it was confirmed he's a HA.

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PostPosted: 13:02 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh, I heard on the news that the fella was an Angel.
I was at the Bulldog Bash & saw no trouble. (mind you it's a big site)
There were a lot of different patches there too!
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting change of wording on the BBC website! Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

BCF has another thread on this topic here.
Confirmed HA on there ages ago!
LUXY DJ wrote:
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Police are investigating the murder of a motorcyclist who was shot dead on the M40 in Warwickshire yesterday while returning from a motorcycle festival. The man was travelling with two other bikers on the southbound carriageway between junctions 12 and 13 near Leamington Spa when he was shot, detectives said.
Air ambulance crews treated the man at the scene, but he died soon afterwards. Warwickshire police refused to confirm if he had been a gang member, but said the possibility that biker gangs were involved was a "very active line of inquiry".


Detectives were yesterday seeking a green older Rover car following the incident.
The investigation forced the closure of both carriageways between southbound junctions 14 at Warwick and 12 at Gaydon, and northbound between 12 and 13 at Bishops Tachbrook, prompting traffic chaos, with 10-mile tailbacks. Police said the motorway was likely to remain closed overnight and part of today.

The West Midlands ambulance service said it was called to the southbound carriageway at 2.20pm. A spokesman said paramedics found a motorcyclist who had "suffered very serious injuries" and he was pronounced dead at the scene.

Paul Roberts, from Worthing, was driving along the M40 when the incident happened. He told BBC News: "Suddenly we had to stop ... soon other motorists were out of their cars and on the carriageway. One lady in a BMW took a first aid kit to the man who was lying on his front just next to the central reservation. It was noticeable that the man was very still and was not wearing any shoes."

Detective Superintendent Ken Lawrence said: "We want to know if any witnesses travelling on the motorway between 2.30-2.45pm were aware of a green Rover car that acted in any way unusual or strange. All I know is that it was an older Rover, a 620 probably. One or two witness accounts have mentioned this car being close to the motorcycles at the time that something clearly happened."

The victim, who has not been identified, was travelling from the Bulldog Bash motorcycle festival at Long Marston airfield near Stratford-upon-Avon, about 20 miles from the incident.

The chief organiser of the festival, Bilbo, said the man was a member of the Hells Angels. He said: "I did know him, he was 33-years-old and was a Hells Angel ... you couldn't wish to meet a better person."

Bilbo, 56, who has been member of the Wessex Hells Angels chapter for 30 years, refused to speculate on whether the man had been murdered by a rival biker gang.

"I have no idea why this would happen," he said. "It's deeply shocking. This year was a massive event and it all went off virtually trouble free. We had one mobile phone lost and that was returned."

The four-day festival which ended yesterday featured drag racing, a custom bike show and rock acts including Status Quo and The Damned. It attracted almost 30,000 people, from mainstream motorcycle clubs to smaller clubs from many countries, Bilbo said.

Six years ago three bikers from France and Canada were shot at on the M40 as they returned from the festival, and one of them required hospital treatment for leg wounds. Police at the time described it as an "indiscriminate" attack.


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PostPosted: 15:08 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes = it was not my place to comment on the hows or whys of what happened, as it is none of my business.

Simple as that.

No politics, no discussion or wild unfounded speculation on the whys, who, wherefore, history or anything else which is entirely a club concern, and not my own.

The fact that it might be somebody I know, and that I was sitting here worried sick that it might be somebody I love, and have had a particularly sleepless night - is barely capable of being implied by a mere rolly-eye-smiley.

Given that the news reports are indicating a quote from one of the organisers of the Bulldog that it is a club member - and therefore the people who I do know and love will be immensely upset at his death and the circumstances surrounding it, is my only concern.

So ... just a simple expression of frustration.
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