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[kaz32]

Just because i always here something different , who thinks that if you ride a bike sensibly no matter of your age or the type of bike that you will be o.k unlesss something happens to you that ain't your fault or what ever .Just a quick yes or no please ,thanks.kaz conquers

[acwman]

[bazza]

I reckon my off proves that anyone can screw up, no matter what.
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[kaz32]

Hey , an example just for you ... i am 17 is it a bad idea for me to get an R6 in a few months , or should i get a 125 , do you think the bike doesn't matter its how sensible the rider is when it comes to that boy had an accident because he had THAT SPECIFIC BIKE ??thanks.kaz

[AngelGrinder]

[DaveH]

Sensibility will make for the safer rider, but familiarity breeds complacency, so sensible becomes a subjective matter as the perceived risk becomes less...then there is the fact that we are all, for the most part, human, so cannot guarantee behaviour at all given times under all given circumstances.

That is where experience starts to come in...and under certain circumstances lack of experience will hit a lot harder on an R6 than a 125, then there is the cost of fixing/replacing said machine.

This is not to say that its a guaranteed accident waiting to happen...but...there is a lot to be said for learing the ropes on a smaller/slower bike

Then you add other road users in to the mix...
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[Kara]

More than safety, if you get a R6 with no experience you'll never learn to ride a bike well, you'll be a point and squirty. If you learn to ride a slow bike quick, you will be quicker quicker!
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[DaveH]

[stinkwheel]

More to the point. How the hell can a 17 year old afford to run an R6? Even if you can afford to buy and insure it.

I just fired the fat-end of £250 up the swanee on CONSUMABLES for my VFR. For that I got front brake pads, a chain and sporcket set and a back tyre.

I get to fit them myself, god only knows how much it would have been to get a garage to fit them. I need to service it soon too.
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[colin1]

i think there are two sides to this

being sensible is not deliberately doing dangerous things

another aspect, is not being clumsy

some people are clumsy, although sensible, and some people are not clumsy, but not sensible

the not sensible, clumsy person may kill himself on his first ride out

i am have had accidents due to clumsyness, and or not being sensible.

Although 2 of my accidents were the fault of other people, if I were being more senisble and less clumsy at the time, i could have avoided them.

Someone could ride a bike for many decades without an accident, but many things make this unlikely.

Temptation to immitate other bikes who may not be sensible, but may not be clumsy.

Bikes make the most sensible of people less sensible.

etc
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[colin1]

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[Stu_666]

I reckon 90% of accidents could be avoided just by people being more aware. Just a few basic things like clear observation of road conditions, hints as to what people might do next (for example looking at their head movements in the car in case they suddenly change lane, appropriate speed and also good vehicle maintenance. Also always expect the worse of other people to do fucked up things and have a planned escape path

As for getting the R6 , I'd probably say go for it but take it easy at first. Like most I got a 125cc first of all then about 8 months later got a 600. Difference in power is pretty incredible and on occasions it has caught me out. Still, would've loved one at 17

[Kara]

Legally speaking it would have to be restricted anyway at 17, which I guess has pros and cons also, I guess you'd look cool and get used to the bike at "sensible" power on the downside it would be 33bhp.

That is of course, if you keep it restricted, which also has it's pros and cons
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[kaz32]

Hello , "with great power , comes great responsibility" , first of it's not mummy and daddy's bank account , it's me saving and working and doing my car lessons and test also so my mum and dad let me do my bike test , and everyone in my family is totally against this so nobody can say i am not working for it , i seemed to have not mentioned but my cousin has a Mito Evo 125 which i am going to be riding around on hopefully sometime november , and will keep that to the beginning of next year and that is when i want my big test done by and will then if all goes well go R6 shopping . I know myself as a 17 year old that i will have the urge to try do this,that and the next thing on the bike when my pals say " aww cumon lets see what it can do " but like mentioned here before at the end of the day we are all human , you live life and you learn , and i have learned a little by looking at other's mistakes as my cousin killed himself years back when he went out and paid over 8K in finance for his bike and all his gear and on the same day his own pals ran over him , and my uncles pal killed himself by going straight in to a tree at 100mph .thanks.kaz

[McGee]

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[kaz32]

How do you think i feel i had to qrite the F****R lmao.thanks.kaz

[MarJay]

[Kal]

I'm not even going to tick the poll, because you aren't thinking right yet.

Theres right and wrong which is all about fault and blame.

Then there is alive and dead which is all about whether you get to go down to the pub with your mates next weekend.

I don't want to be another rider who was in the right but ended up in a box early so I tend to ride defensively.

You are 17, and I can remember that. I was different and I was indestructible. No doubt you are the same.

Insurance Companies may lie but their statistica don't.

The majority of serious accidents happen in good weather on good road surfaces. They are single vehicle collisions. They tend to involve a male rider between the ages of 17 and 25. he tends to be mounted on a powerful sportsbike.

Which is why if you tick the boxes for that you will be anally penetrated for your insurance premium, because the odds are that the insurance company will be paying out on you.

Trust me insurance companies want you to give them your money rather than have you give it to their competitors so they will quote you as low as they can and still make a profit based on the odds of you causing an expensive mess.

Now you may be the one to buck the trend, you may very well be different, but a large amount of those other riders also believed that.

Get yourself a forgiving bike to learn the craft on and good kluck to you.
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