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 Posted: 11:46 - 17 Oct 2007  Post subject: High intensity discharge kits |
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Been looking at HIDS for ages now and my new bikes headlights are no where near as good as my my old bikes so i thought about getting a kit from ebay.
The kits come with two of everything so there is enough to do two bikes if you only have it fitted on dipped beam which is the common way to have them fitted.
So does anyone want to go halfs on a kit? Cant see the point of me buying a kit that does two bikes when i only have one. 
This is the cheapest set i've found for H7 BULBS which my bike has.
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-BULBS-BALLAST-H7-6000K-NEW_W0QQitemZ290170706709QQihZ019QQcategoryZ9895QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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| Posted: 11:53 - 17 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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Ironically, that's the listing i'm looking at RIGHT now! I'm a bit dubious by the chinese made ballast units and bulbs. My cousin had some installed in his ford ranger, but the ballasts failed on him after 3 months. I'd go for something with a reputable ballast unit and no hassle installation where you don't need to splice your own relays. I was going to fork out 110 quid on the ones at www.hids4u.co.uk - but then i wrote the bike off. Wont be able to afford them once i get them on the road, so going to get OSRAM Nightstars or Philips vision extremes instead. 20 quid as opposed to 80 odd - i only need 1 so i can keep the other as spare.
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I too was thinking about the quality of the kit, that seller does have some neg feedback but it doesnt seem too bad. 
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| Posted: 13:21 - 17 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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I been looking at the mcnninja site and that ebay kit looks very similar if not the same type. I might just risk the cheap set and keep my fingers crossed!
EDIT: i've ordered the set, i'll see what happens.
If its any good, i'll put the other one up for sale on here at what it cost.
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| Posted: 15:58 - 17 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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FYI and FWIW the HID may be illegal to retro fit.
Came across this | Quote: | From the DfT:
December 2006
Aftermarket HID headlamps
In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.
The following is the legal rationale:
The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.
However new vehicles have HID headlamps. This is because they comply to European type approval Regulations. The UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with a European type approval. These are to ECE Regulation 98 (for the HID headlamps which are tested on a rig in a laboratory) and ECE Regulation 48 (Lighting Installation on the vehicle).
For the after market, a used vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for new vehicles. However we feel that saying "HID is banned in the after market" would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of safety should apply.
Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:
1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.
2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).
3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.
In practice this means:
1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.
2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.
3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.
Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.
In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.
If you require any further information regarding the regulations covered by this fact sheet, please contact the DfT at the address below:
Transport Technology and Standards 6
Department for Transport
Zone 2/04
Great Minster House
76 Marsham Street Telephone: 020 7944 2078
London Fax: 020 7944 2196
SW1P 4DR Email: TTS.enquiries@dft.gsi.gov.uk |
Basically what they're saying is that if the reflector unit isn't designed for HID then the pattern produced would be wrong.
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Cheers for the info.
I am aware that retro fitting hids can cause some 'leakage' on the beam pattern, but its only a small amount and it will be adjusted slightly down so as not to blind people.
I know of plenty of people who have hids on their bikes and have had no issues with the plod or having their bike pass its mot, so i dont see any reason to worry.
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Well they arrived this morning from hong kong and after taking the front end off my bike they are now fitted,and so far they seem to be working perfectly. Going to go out when it gets dark to see what they are like, but even sitting in my shed they look bloody bright. 
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i had some in my gix 6. looked cool but the buzzing that they make annoyed me. Fitting was a doddle, hid the ballasts in the nose of the bike.
Wont be fitting them again.
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count yourself lucky then!
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nice 1, you should of got a before & after pic of them head on @ same time of day
quick question - can you make H1's fit a H4 fitting? OR is there some sort of converter for this?
i basically got a HELIOS 7000K(good make) HID kit cause it was DIRT CHEAP & im either gonna fit to bike if poss or just sell on @ a nice profit 
so, convertable? also how they hold up against wheelies? 
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Here is a picture, its crap but you get the point.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/blazebrown/22102007133.jpg
As for h1 to h4, hmm thats kinda awkward because a h4 bulb is much bigger than a h1. If you could fabricate some sorta ring to fit round the bulb holding is straight in the h4 holder you'd be fine. A h1 bulb locates with 2 small bumbs on it, the h4 locates using 3 lugs. Its probably doable but you'd have to remove the headlight and do it that way.
Not sure about wheelies, cos i dont do them.
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| Posted: 16:24 - 22 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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looking goooooooood looks FRESH!....so its that just one bulb with 2 filament's?
well only other option iv seen, is the bulbs unplug a bit down the wires so could just buy H4 bulbs & plug them in
BUT cant seem to find 7000K replaceables  only 6k or 8k but there still good if it means i can have HID 
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