Stay at school until you are 18?

[stinkwheel]

The English government want to make it a legal requirement to stay at school until you are 18. Just England, the Scottish parliament has binned the idea.

This will apparently solve the problem of people leaving school at 16 without qualifications.

"Mr Balls (the education Secretary) said the new age limit would be enforced by a "robust regime" of support and penalties including spot fines and court action.".
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7077399.stm

So, there are quite a few 17 and 18 year olds on here. Get back to school or face a fine? Or maybe you're still there anyway?
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Hi

Gets them off the unemployment list so makes the figures even more useless but better looking.

All the best

Keith
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[powelly]

[Itchy]

[Mister James]

Totally pointless, needlessly nannying and - as mentioned above - is a blatant attempt to massage the employment figures.

The courts system is currently creaking under the strain of real crime, why burden it with yet more new 'offences'? Oh wait - they probably won't, they'll simply devolve more court powers to unelected mong officials from the local council.
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[powelly]

if they bring this in who will serve me my big mac and large fries?
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[Glen]

All I can see it doing is keeping the kids who don't want to be there disrupting the education of those who genuinely want to learn.

I can't begin to tell you how much my education improved while at college once the troublemakers were gone, busy flipping burgers at MaccyD's

[Chriss]

But this will eliminate the need to bribe^H^H^H^H^H support kids with EMA, and provide a new tax in the form of fines, if it's enforced hard enough....
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[ncrn]

Thats a bad idea in my opinion. School was always hard to get by if you were trying to achieve as there would be a lot of kids getting in the way of that who didn't want to be there.

6th form was good because those who we're interrupting a lot, or jsut didn't want to be there, weren't there, so you can learn better.

Uni is even better as you don't get any problems really, well in my experience anyway.

I think 6th form would have been a lot harder if I had to be there with the low lifes I got stuck with in school..
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[Dalemac]

bollocks idea in my opinion.

i have chosen to stay on and complete my a levels becuase im not qualified enough to do the job i really want to do (pilot). I go to 6th form in the biggest school in warwickshire and the majority of them are scrotes who i dont want to ever have to work along side!

It was good to see 99% of those scrotes drop out after GCSE's and pack off to mcdonalds and burger king!

It has meant i can get the teaching i need to complete my a-levels well! with all the scrotes here i would not be able to get the same tuition.


Then there is the problem there is not enough college's/ sixth forms to hold the masses of chavs, what are they going to do, have inadequate teachers teach a-level topics and see the results fall dramatically? because i can gurantee you the majority of the people who actually left and got jobs virtually failed their gcse's, and without gcse's you cant go into "further education" so whats the point?? they will be at school forever!!!!!
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[Harold_Shand]

Scotland have been getting it right. May be tempted to skip just over the border if it continues.

Kids should start school much later, like Japan, and finish much earlier if the kids and parents want. Maybe like at 14, but they would have to do an apprenticeship during that time or something? I haven't thought it through... just typing and seeing what comes out.

They wouldn't be able to claim dole though. You go to work or do a worthwhile qualification. A fat lot of good a HND in TV & Video production done me.
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[Dalemac]

Completely agree with you harold

I think dole should be wiped out completely, ok, some people have kids to look after and mum's often take years out of work...but was it not their choice to hav/ keep the child in the first place? and is that not what child benefit is for
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[Itchy]

[colin1]

Most education is pointless and just a way of sorting the wheat from the chaff.

So just making more people stay on, doesnt make them all as good as the people who now stay on.

Its the same with university. A retard who has gone to university, is still a retard, and university is going to train them but its only worth it if the training is useful.

A degree used to mean something but now loads of people do bullshit ones so it means nothing.

None of the jobs i have done have needed any qualifications.

I wasted years of my life in education when i could have been earning.

Getting everyone to a minimum standard so they can read, write and do simple sums would be a good idea, as many cant, but otherwise, educations is only useful if it has a purpose for a particular job.
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[Philious]

That makes it better for the kids who aspire to becoming a dole bum, at the moment its not possible to sign on as soon as you leave school as the minimum age is 18 afaik.

So it'll mean more ppl leave school and go straight onto dole bum seekers allowance.

This government needs eradicating they're too full of shit ideas
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[ncrn]

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[chris-red]

Has anyone actually read it?

it is a brilliant idea you stay in education till 18 unless you have a job/apprentiship. It stop kiddies dropping out a 16 and going striaght on the dole.
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[kitty kat]

what about the kids for whom education is pretty pointless. my son can read and write very well, but he is not academically gifted, so further education would be pointless for him, are they going to make more apprenticeships available for the kids who wish a more hands on approach in life rather than text books?

College has worked well for myself & my eldest daughter, but it is not for everyone.
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