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PostPosted: 15:45 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: what do they actualy teach on the CBT? Reply with quote

I got a call from a friend asking what the rules were with zebra crossings!

He said he stopped at one outside a secondary school but got bored of waiting so barged through the people on his bike because he didnt no the rules, he was supprised because people started shouting at him!

what the hell do people get taught apart from riding through cones!?!?!?

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PostPosted: 15:51 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Re: what do they actualy teach on the CBT? Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:

He said he stopped at one outside a secondary school but got bored of waiting so barged through the people on his bike because he didnt no the rules, he was supprised because people started shouting at him!



Please tell me Your joking. Was he not told to read the highway code?
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

How to be aware, observe and control the vehicle. This to me is the CBT. Anything else taught about kit and road signals is a bonus.

The highway code should be learned by any sane individual wanting to participate in travel on the UK roads.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug, tell me this is a joke?? Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Re: what do they actualy teach on the CBT? Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
what the hell do people get taught


How to write a cheque for £100.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's where the CBT system falls down.

You can do it, then jump on a 125 with minimal road sense and no grasp of the highway code. The kids that have the wee 50cc ped's can be a positive liability with no idea what the lines on the road mean, road signage or anything.

I don't even think they do cycling proficiency at school any more.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were in a group of 4 and we were asked questions, didnt have to get the answer as it was training and not a test.

But we learnt what every crossing is, what every road marking does and anything else, before we sat on a bike.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your told to read the highway code often that's part of the cbt.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

That said, it is annoying waiting at a zebra crossing and people just keep turning up; you could be there all day.

They have them on George Street in Edinburgh, on the exits and entries onto the 'round-a-bouts,' its a main shopping drag and usually quite busy... Outside a school? At chucking out time, you have to wait till ALL the kids crossed the road? Shocked

That said, its still a pretty daft thing to do.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

my cbt experience was very similar. we sat down in the centre and scenarios were drawn on a white board.we were then asked questions about them and taught how the scenario should be approached.

pa_broon74 wrote:

You can do it, then jump on a 125 with minimal road sense and no grasp of the highway code. The kids that have the wee 50cc ped's can be a positive liability with no idea what the lines on the road mean, road signage or anything.


sadly, the kinda kids I see riding mopeds around town seem like they wouldnt care even if they did know how to use the road properly.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell if the kids where like the ones at one school in Banbury I would of just run them over.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was taking too long I would have got off of the bike and rolled it over the zebra crossing, riding over it just makes you seem like an absolute lunatic! Shocked
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tis only the same as a car and getting a provisional licence.

CBT is just about being able to have control of a bike and be able to ride it safely..... So you don't wobble under the 1st car to pass you..
Rules of the road are upto you and should really be known before venturing out....

Makes you wonder about people, has he never used a crossing in his life on foot.... Laughing

How to use one should be common sense (sic) Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't drive a car on the road on your own with just a provisional. And any tit can get a provisional, for a small fee.

They teach you how to control the bike safely, and how to position yourself on the road etc. They should also go over basic road signs you might see. But yeah, get a copy of the highway code if you don't know it!
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe he didn't know how a zebra crossing works!

IMHO, CBT certainly isn't enough to teach someone how to use the road. Even my riding instructor said at CBT time that it's a scary thought that after a few hours riding around a car park and a couple of hours on the road, anyone can get out onto the road on their own unsupervised!
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

dabigginger wrote:
Even my riding instructor said at CBT time that it's a scary thought that after a few hours riding around a car park and a couple of hours on the road, anyone can get out onto the road on their own unsupervised!


Hell we just bought a bike got on it and off you went.....

Many garages didn't care, mine said ride round the car park Laughing OK you can go now.....

Then again many never made it home.... Sick
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 13 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't complain if they made it so you need to pass the theory test BEFORE you can go out on your own unsupervised.

Then again, i already have both of those...
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 14 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope not a joke at all, ive had to explain so many things to him that i thought were A) Common sence B) included in "basic training" (cbt)

Taking your theory before your CBT should be made compulsory, people might actualy have a clue about the rules and laws!

Idea actualy mayby an IQ test as well!

thats just wishfull thinking Laughing

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PostPosted: 01:38 - 14 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't get taught much about well.. anything in my cbt. I got shown how a twist and go works and I learnt how to control it.

I already knew how to use the roads as I'd been cycling on the road for a few years before hand, but I probably could have passed without ever reading a highway code.

Still makes me laugh that I was able to just jump on my NSR cause I'd turned 17.
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PostPosted: 01:41 - 14 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone barged past me on a zebra crossing i'd hit the killswitch and possibly take the keys. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 14 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was doing my DAS they had a couple of people sitting in on there CBT. I was at that point [banned] from answering any questions Laughing (I was on lunch)
It really did amuse me that half the time they didnt know a bit of simple common sence - Thats when I could answer. (I felt such a big head at the time lol)

But one boy, 16 proper chavvy kid sat and said nothing, even with questions being given he didnt have a clue.
Needless to say, he went out on his '2 hours course' and was back before I finished my sandwich. He didnt stop at a roundabout, he thought he had the right away - stright away. Thumbs Down
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