VFR, RVF or CBR?

[Catalyst]

ok, well booked my test for march and i'm now shopping around for some 400's as at this time of the year i could find a bargain!

I was set on the kwak 250, but after reading a lot on it it just doesn't fit what i want. I want a bike that i can just go to college and back on (7 miles each way) and also to go out for a hoon on the weekends.

250's don't have enough power as i'll be taking pillions a lot and using the motorway so i think a 400 is a good step up from a geared 50cc

Problem is, which one? i've narrowed it down to the CBR, VFR and RVF although im partial to a bit of fizzy . I'm leaning towards the RVF atm as it looks lovely! and theres more of them about in good cond.

I'm looking from around 2-3.5K max and not an import either.

Thanks guys, any info would be greatly appreciated

Jack
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[McGee]

Wheres the "Get a Real Bike" option
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Its pronounced Jixxer!

[TUG]

[Scouse]

[Blau Zedong]

All the CBR's and RVF's are imports and 90% of VFR's will be too.

The RVF is more highly specced (but not alot to choose performance wise), and being newer you have a better chance of buying a decent one.

McGee's right though - older 600's and 750's are better roadbikes and offer far better value for money these days.
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[G]

In the grand scheme of things, they are all pretty similar bikes.

I wouldn't limit yourself to just Hondas and would just look out for what seems to be the best value bike in this area that you can get for your money.

Personally, I wouldn't be spending that much on a 'first big bike' - a £1k bike will do the same and you won't lose as much if/when you drop it.

[Catalyst]

yeah, i have looked and would consider both a fzr or gsxr 400.

But i will be restricting the bike to 33bhp if that helps anyones input in any way

Jack
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[Catalyst]

what 600's would people reccomend? I don't want a bike thats too powerful, although it will be restricted it must have slightly more torque than 400's?

I can trust my right hand, but it's the weight of the bike aswell, im sure i'd get used to it, but a 50 to a 600 is quite a big jump restrictors or not.

Jack
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[McGee]

Seriously I hate people who are scared of power.

Bah.

Stick to your girly bikes.

And gotta love the 400 riders excuse.

I gotta work harder to make it go faster, so its more rewarding
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Its pronounced Jixxer!

[Ben.]

any twin is good restricted sv650 is most popular to restrict. get a 125 for a few months i would recomend
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[Noxious89123]

I was looking at 400's... The problem i found is that VFRs and RVFs seem to be quite pricey for one in good condition, because they are rather sought after...

And the CBR is just as bad.

For the same £££, you can get a really nice 600cc+ bike. So why not?
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[TUG]

[aaron0288]

[Jrod]

If you want a uk bike ZXR is by far the most common.

[McGee]

[craigs23]

Big bikes are for riders who can't make small bikes go fast. Thinking they can muster the performance capabilities of anything over what a 600 is capable of on the roads is just delusional - or they should think about getting into professional road racing (who even have to hold back on the bigger bike classes). Not even Ghostrider can use what a 1000 has to offer on the road. He's a Youtube video laugh at dodging traffic, but was pretty average around the Nurburgring.

My advice would be to opt for the NC30. The RVF's spec aren't that far removed, just a refined version (lacking the original's purist design imo) and can be picked up a lot cheaper.

Don't dismiss the unfaired 400s too such as CB1s and Superfours. Nearly as much performance, suspension can be sorted just as cheaply (a worthy upgrade as most would have tired and old shocks by now) but usually around half the price.

[chris-red]

[MarJay]

[MarJay]

[TUBZ69]

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[colin1]

i think 400s are a bit old now yet overpriced for what they are.

Fine if you know how to fix them when they go wrong, or have a friend who can, but otherwise, you would be better off getting a ten year old thundercat for £1500 which wont have done as many miles as a 15 year old 400.

A 600 will be better on the motorway too.

Having said that, marjays 400 looks quite good for the price. Not as overpriced as some.
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[hairychipstic...]

while i agree to a point nothing irritates me more than 400 owners who claim to be more skillful than people with bigger bikes because they choose to stick to a 400 or were too shit to apprectiate a 1000 on the road
bollocks, and you are talking through your hole if you think you are using it to its limits all the time as well, if you were you would be falling off pretty much all the time
if you pushed like people do on the track racing you would be dead fairly fast
what u can do is use more throttle, that is all
if you prefer them that is one thing, but as with craig above dont be an arse about it, sure dont you spend more time polishing than riding?

[Keir]

id recomend you go for a 600 of some description. not because im 400ist but because a 400 is a very small bike for taking pillions and motorway journeys. yes i know it can be done but the extra mass is nice.
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