Selling a bike to an impatient ebay newbie.

[instigator]

This is a bit of a mission to read, I must admit. I've tried to shorten it down a bit but needed to get my point across. What do you think on the matter?

- I put my gsxr on eBay.

- Bloke buys bike off eBay

- Without even an email, bloke goes through eBay, asks for my info and rings me, leaving a message.

- I was on site. Phone message states he wants to pick it up this weekend otherwise he'll have to look elsewhere.

- I get this message upon leaving site. I text him to apologise and to state that I am busy this weekend and unfortunately he would have to go elsewhere.

- I was working on a pharmaceutical site all week, no electroni devices allowed due to explosion risk. He leaves 3 more voicemails, all of which I don't reply to.

- I email him and state the situation, apologise, I'm on site all week and am 100% busy this weekend, give me a phone next week if you're still interested.

- I miss another voicemail.

- Saturday I receive negative feedback, saying I was a "messer".

- I thought that was out or order. He clearly didn't want to buy it now so I retalited in the only way possible - negged him back. His negative feedback was completely unjustified. Ebay allows sellers 14days to complete a transaction if I am not mistaken.

- Sunday, out with my mum in Regents park and he calls. He leaves a message, shouting how I am a "c*nt". Not nice. I delete it.

- I email him Sunday night. I state the situation, why I done it. Very well worded, well mannered and no obscenities at all.

- He emails back with "how sad"

- I email him asking "why is this sad? Sorry, I am slightly confused." That was my Genuine response, nothing was added or retracted from that statement.

He emails back that night with:

[instigator]

Infact, the item ended on the 16th of April, a Wednesday. He left negative feedback on the 19th.

If that's not impatience, I don't know what is.

[MaybeGuy]

sounds like a scared little council house nobber with his ''brother living next door'' etc... too scared to move away? scared your going to do something? pathetic

oh well, im sure he thinks the world revolves around him. i say break into his house, take £35 worth of stuff give or take a few grand, and call it quits.

think of it as... a self employed bailiff
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[Handsome]

His Sister lives on his left and his Brother lives on his right ?...

What does he live on, a caravan park ?...
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[MaybeGuy]

[Pie-Roe]

according to ebay he hasn't left any negative feedback at all.

Did you get it removed?
Pyro
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[instigator]

[Pie-Roe]

/pyro the ebay noob
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[Kal]

Formal complaint to eBay with all his emails attached. 3 days before leaving you neg feedback? Totally unreasonable.


Shame as I could do with his lightbar for the Trike...
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[c_dug]

Hes from dagenham what did you expect

(no offence meant to any other dagenhamites)

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[colin1]

sounds to me like a genuine misunderstanding. He doesnt understand your situation.

You still have a potential sale at the price he bid.

f I were you, I'd be pursuing that rather than caring about whether or not he is a tosser or whether he has left neg feedback.

Unfortunately, by u giving neg feedback, u may have lost the sale.

In my opinon if i was selling something as valuable as a bike, i wdnt give a shit about feedback. It not hard to get good feeback, just by buying cheap shit.
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[JonB]

The newbie obviously doesn't understand the concept of ebay. In that it's not actually a shop where any item is dispatched within one day and instead they are dealing with normal human beings who actually have lives.
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[killa]

I think the bloke may have mental issue's, if you've sent him email stating your work situation and he comes back with replies like that, he's a loon.
I don't what you should do but i opened a dispute with paypal and it was resolved in about 2 weeks.
If you were gonna do cash then carry on with the dispute through Ebay.

Good luck
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[Keir]

im gonna sabotage his auctions, he seems like a cock.
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[Wiggy]

Why didn't you just call him back? Would have saved loads of this faffing around and sorted the problem out easy. He was very impatient, I agree. But also your name changing antics were pretty stupid.

I don't use Ebay myself so don't know the rules of it etc, but can't you just relist it ?
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[ZRX61]

Good fucking grief, just ignore the fucking idiot. You explained the situation, he seems to be unable to grasp it.
Just walk away & stop ALL contact with the muppet.

[instigator]

[iooi]

[faddius]

Call ebay, explain it to them over the phone and just tell them exactly what happened. They tend to pay more attention to situations on the phone rather than the email based complaint route through their website.

Failing that, hotmail = free accounts, make new accounts, make a load of ebay accounts with fake details, spam bid all of his auctions and just send him a message after every win saying that you wanted to pick it up 5 mins ago, and its too late now and your having to go elsewhere, and quote a spoof email he apparantly sent you threatening you that you better buy it else he will come to your home address.

Screw him out of a ton of money, go do it NOW hes got 3 vehicles on auctions, say £20 per auction, screw him over and tell ebay he threatened you and you feel too intimidated to go and get the vehicle incase he does anything.
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[instigator]

I can not believe ebay are trying to screw me over with this recent email:

[colin1]

cant u just offer the bidder below the opportunity to buy the bike ?

that way u wont mind about not getting ur fee back, as u will have sold the bike by putting it on ebay, which is why u paid the listing fee
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[G]

Don't evay have some phone number you can call now?
Might be worth trying that and talking to a 'real' person.

[instigator]

I am closing my buyers and sellers account once this crap is sorted. 5 years of 'loyalty' and they go and do this.

I'll phone them tomorrow I guess....I emailed them back but they replied a day later with the same old pish, a copy and paste job. They stated how yes it was unfair that the dispute can be closed without the fees being refunded. And THAT was it...no speel about how to reclaim these fees. None whatsoever....a bit of a "tough shit" reply.

[tutton]

Not taking the others person side,
but on alot of other auctions where large amounts of money is involved, the seller puts on his auction that the buyer must contact and put down a 100 pounds desposit within 24 hours of the end.

Maybe as hes a seller hes flip sided it and expected you to reply within 24 hours?
Just a though.
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[instigator]

Just phoned eBay as advised.

They said thay cannot do a thing. They will escilate it again but there are no promises. Quite frankly, I feel completely and utterly deserted by a company which I have given more or less 5 years worth of good business to. I was considered a power seller at one point and then they go and treat a valued customer like that. I truley am absolutely disgusted that such a flaw can exist in their 'system'.

They can send the bailiffs round now because I am blocking their direct debit and closing my account.

Re: Tutton, regardless of how he has 'flipped it', he has gone against how ebay works and fucked me over for it. 3 fucking days he waited before deciding to give me negative feedback.