Ouch....How NOT to overtake....

shakes · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Karma :

I'd give him 9/10 for his "100mph overtaking and proceed to fly off car at 60 ft aerobatic quadruple head over feet somersault into the trees" manoeuver. Emmm...0/10 for staying alive and 10/10 for being a stupid bast*rd.

Joking aside, Poor sod, seems like a bad judgement of speed and distance on a straight road. What do ya think? Anyone been caught out like this and managed to get in just before death knocked on your lid?

https://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V4098
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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

Looks like a case of rideout oneup manship.

One guy gets overtaken by his mate, he then thinks, you arent better than me, and wants to keep up.

The problem with rideouts sometimes, is people are too concerned with the group than the road and other road users.

Bad overtake, with poor observation, but its really about ego and wanting to keep up.

Thats why some people do a rule of no overtaking on rideouts to avoid this kind of sillyness.

I've been on a few rideouts where there were some silly ego-driven overtakes, not recently fortunately.

One guy I used to ride with is now dead, and he was a bit into this kind of thing.

If you have one guy who rides fast, and can do so safely up front, the others have to try hard to keep up and sometimes take unnecessary risks.

I make a point of accepting my limitations and not trying to push myself.

People killing themselves is one thing, but it always hurts other people too, which makes it wrong.
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shakes · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Karma :

I think that probably explains it. I've found one showing what you are talking about, but between 2 mates instead of a group. 2 lads riding through the mountains...nice roads and lovely corners for a knee down...but...wet roads, high speed, trying to keep up with his mate...head on into another bike at a "combined" head to head speed of 150-200mph...instant death for both.

I think as he got further down the route the old "f*ck it, I'll show him" kicked in and that was that. Feel sorry for the guy riding on the right side of the road getting taken out. Poor bast*rds.

https://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V2870
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Deus · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Karma :

That site has some really really sick videos.. Sad that for some people it's entertainment...

Kal · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Karma :

It happens, and if you lose your self-control for a moment it can happen to you too...
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Kal · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Karma :

I'd be seriously pissed if it was friend or family of mine.
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shakes · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Karma :

It seems the rider with the camcorder lived, the rider he hit was killed. Not good.
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Finglonga · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Karma :

I feel sorry for the car driver, his life messed up by the Idiot on the bike. Sorry no sympathy when he rides like that.

Ride like an idiot, die like an idiot. Thumbs Down

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jack_zxr400 · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Karma :

ouch..
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shakes · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Karma :

atom · Scooby Slapper Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Karma :

It seems like that was serious lack of observations/ suicide.

But I don't think hand on heart I could say I've always had perfect overtake judgement skills, leading to a couple of brown pants, too close for comfort moments.

It seems a bit harsh to condemn the dead guy, he got carried away and died for his troubles, hopefully the car driver was unharmed.

But just not that close.
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shakes · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Karma :

And what do you do if this happens when overtaking?.....I have been in this situation before and it's definitely not a good place to be...a swift boot to the car door managed to get the driver to pull back in, but I was lucky. This poor bast*rd wasn't so lucky...It even looks like the car driver smashed into him on purpose if you ask me....what do ya think?

https://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V2435
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EddyJones · Crazy Courier Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Karma :

There is a car infront of the red SEAT, you can see the shadows in the video.

As said, its been covered a few times on here before. Poor obs of both parties

The cars behaviour does show that hes getting frustrated following the car in front and the biker should of thought that he could overtake at the next opertunity

The car driver does not check his blind spot before moving out however as if he did he would see the bike is already in the opposite lane completing a overtake

50/50

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Yeti · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Karma :

Look again, the red car is right up another cars arse, look for the shadow in front of the car.
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Villers · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Karma :

I think the car vs bike video has been done to death, you can easily tell by the road manners of the car he wants to get past something. Think about it he's in a 'hot hatch', he needs to be struggling behind the car in front looking for a 100 yards to overtake. Your behind him on his sportsbike and can be past him whenever theres a much smaller gap. Might as well let him go first surely?

As for the video in the OP, its easy looking at that video to say 'I would have just stuffed it into the field on the left instead' but I bet blind panic took over.
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