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 NOTAR L Plate Warrior
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 Posted: 04:02 - 29 Jul 2008 Post subject: 2001 Bandit 600 in storage for 4 years trouble. |
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First post.
I just bought a 2001 Bandit 600 that's lived in a garage for the past 4 years. When I bought it, it would Idle with the choke on, but not rev. I felt it was lucky that it even turned over.
Compression is Great on all 4 cylinders, and has new plugs, and they all get good spark. I knew that the carbs would need a good cleaning, so I pulled them. I did find some plugged ports, and jets, and removed the epa slugs and removed the air mixture screws. With the sledge removed, I was confident that it would run again.
Carbs back in bike, new gas(in a spotless tank, and new fuel filter), the bike fired within seconds with choke. Bike also would run when choke was removed, BUT it returns to Idle very slow when releasing the throttle(Cable and throttle mechanism return very fast). I bench sync'ed the carbs, and will have some sticks by weeks end for a proper sync. I haven't checked the valves yet, and put it off due to the good compression, and worked the carbs first. Bike has 6k miles, and I'll check the valves tomorrow, and at the same time triple check all vacuum lines. Bike also has new oil and filter.
With the carbs returning to idle very slow, I've checked for air leaks by spraying starting fluid on both sides of the carbs when the motor is cool, and no increase in RPMS. I've also double checked that all diaphragms are in good shape, and well seated, and triple checked that all have the spring in place(first thing I checked).
Also when I go to adjust the idle setting, I turn the screw, and it takes 10-15 second for the motor to react to the adjustment. The motor wants to Idle at 2000 rpms, and very small movements will make it drop to 1200.
Does this sound like a vacuum problem??
Next is the valve adjustment, then the sync when my sticks get here, and this might solve the issue.
Air mix screws. I removed the slugs, and turned them in to find the bottom, all of them were 1 3/4 turns out from the bottom, and I have them set to the same place. I don't think I will adjust them until after the sync.
Plugs are gapped with proper NGK's, and are slightly grey/black, not wet or fouled, and I'm on my 2nd set just to try it out.
My service manual doesn't really have any checks for the vacuum system, it just says to bring parts to a dealer.
If after the valves and sync don't solve the problem, I'll re-hose all vacuum lines, and buy new diaphragms and springs for the carbs. Petcock is working correctly, and no fuel or vent line kinks. I don't have the charchoal canister for gas vapor, but do have lines running to the exhaust side of the head.
Any quick ideas? I'm sure I'm over looking something.
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 chris-red Have you considered a TDM?

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 Posted: 10:00 - 29 Jul 2008 Post subject: Re: 2001 Bandit 600 in storage for 4 years trouble. |
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| NOTAR wrote: | First post.
I just bought a 2001 Bandit 600 that's lived in a garage for the past 4 years. When I bought it, it would Idle with the choke on, but not rev. I felt it was lucky that it even turned over.
Compression is Great on all 4 cylinders, and has new plugs, and they all get good spark. I knew that the carbs would need a good cleaning, so I pulled them. I did find some plugged ports, and jets, and removed the epa slugs and removed the air mixture screws. With the sledge removed, I was confident that it would run again.
Carbs back in bike, new gas(in a spotless tank, and new fuel filter), the bike fired within seconds with choke. Bike also would run when choke was removed, BUT it returns to Idle very slow when releasing the throttle(Cable and throttle mechanism return very fast). I bench sync'ed the carbs, and will have some sticks by weeks end for a proper sync. I haven't checked the valves yet, and put it off due to the good compression, and worked the carbs first. Bike has 6k miles, and I'll check the valves tomorrow, and at the same time triple check all vacuum lines. Bike also has new oil and filter.
With the carbs returning to idle very slow, I've checked for air leaks by spraying starting fluid on both sides of the carbs when the motor is cool, and no increase in RPMS. I've also double checked that all diaphragms are in good shape, and well seated, and triple checked that all have the spring in place(first thing I checked).
Also when I go to adjust the idle setting, I turn the screw, and it takes 10-15 second for the motor to react to the adjustment. The motor wants to Idle at 2000 rpms, and very small movements will make it drop to 1200.
Does this sound like a vacuum problem??
Next is the valve adjustment, then the sync when my sticks get here, and this might solve the issue.
Air mix screws. I removed the slugs, and turned them in to find the bottom, all of them were 1 3/4 turns out from the bottom, and I have them set to the same place. I don't think I will adjust them until after the sync.
Plugs are gapped with proper NGK's, and are slightly grey/black, not wet or fouled, and I'm on my 2nd set just to try it out.
My service manual doesn't really have any checks for the vacuum system, it just says to bring parts to a dealer.
If after the valves and sync don't solve the problem, I'll re-hose all vacuum lines, and buy new diaphragms and springs for the carbs. Petcock is working correctly, and no fuel or vent line kinks. I don't have the charchoal canister for gas vapor, but do have lines running to the exhaust side of the head.
Any quick ideas? I'm sure I'm over looking something.
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I wouldn't have thought the valves would need doing at all. I reckon it is a carb problem. ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
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Give it a run to clear it out properly. Might take a while to get all the stuff out of the carbs and everything nice and free. ____________________ Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am...... |
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