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PostPosted: 15:26 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Family Reply with quote

What would you do if . . . . . . .

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PostPosted: 16:25 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tricky situation and a tricky question to ask...

You seem to want to give him another chance, and if it feels right for you then do so but start SLOWLY again, see each other less often as you were, make sure he realises that it's only going ahead on your terms and if you feel threatened or worried again at any time then give it neck and move on...

You don't need it, your son doesn't need it and to an extent your family don't either, but it's your choice, lets hope you make the right one...

Hope it works out for you... Thumbs Up

* Que, leave the bastard as he'll never change, blah blah blah comments...
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

So hold on you are shacked up with a knuckle dragging lunatic and you want to stay with him? ,

Didn't I virtually get turned into a pariah for effectively saying women had choices and often chose poorly?.

Plenty more fish in the sea you know.... and plenty other knuckle dragging lunatics , 'nice' guys , a huge selection inbetween.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion...

He's a poor role model for your son. He's not making you happy and you've seen how he can turn.

I know what I'd do. Its never nice at the time, but long run you'll more than likely realise it was the best thing to do.

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PostPosted: 17:28 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just make sure you arnt giving him to many chances , I have seen allo the sorrys and get backs myselfs to. But its up to you to see for yourself weither he can change or not. Telling you at this moment in time would be fruitless as thats how you learn.

As for your family they will have to take this approach to. And you know they are just worried about you, you should be flattered they care so much. They only see so much so in their eyes they probably think its worse than it is behind closed doors. God knows what he is doing to our monkey pie etc after last time. So its natural for them to worry. They just have to let you make your own decisions and mistakes also. Not saying its a mistake or condeming it but they have to respect that.

There just concernned. Exspress you see that and that you apreciate it but its something you must do to learn.

As for him, if he dont change I do hope he will be back out for good on his ass! there is only so many sorrys a girl can take though until its not good enough .
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion.

He's a complete fucking idiot, violent type folk never change, if anything they get worse.

You know this, you see the logic but being female you let your emotions take over because you now think he loves you, you'll make the bad decision to go back with him because your emotions rule you.

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PostPosted: 18:15 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he's shouting and screaming at you he can't have much respect for you, if any.
Why would anyone want to be with someone who doesn't respect them?
At the end of the day you have a kid and if it sees it's dad treating it's mum like shit he's either going to do the same or become a very angry person it later life.
You are also going to become down trodden and lose all respect and pride in yourself and it will become even harder to leave as each day goes by, trust me I know.
It will get to the point you think you can't live without them, and not in the romantic sense...
But sadly I think you've already made your decision and it's not the one I would have made.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

new laws mean you can kill him if you want to Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was half hoping to hear some other peoples stories.

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PostPosted: 20:02 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey I will tell you a storey , two actually. One that worked and one that didnt work.

the one that dodnt work was my ex, the one who done nothing but near drink himself to death and reduced me to a pathetic excuse for a women. For 5 years I put up with being shouted at and used as his emotional and psyical punch bag. I broke up with him and gave him another chance only things where worse. i was to weak without him. He had my head thinking I couldnt live without him. (sounds mad but thats what controlls about) So when I made that decision after the other non working break ups I had to stay away. It was hard. He begged. he stalked me, he even rang me two years after it still when I am with my currant bf to talk to me. he wouldnt bloody give up. he was the one with the problem. he was ok for about a month at most after trying to be good but it was all fake crap. he couldnt change. I couldnt change him. (damged me big time!)

The one that worked was the one i am with now, a bit immature at times but what man isnt. Not perfect but who is. But he tries! took alot of hard work and strength, and by feck i am strong and dont take any crap anymore. (wouldnt have been like that if it were not for the above) he needed whiped into shape. They know they cant act in this way they just keep pushing it to see how far they can go and how yuo will react. See if you put your foot down and relise you can do without him. They wont act like that. If he dosnt you dont need that shit.

You got to stand on your own two feet and use your head over your emotions. Emtions are stupid bloody things that get you in trouble. But as i said before you have to go through it to relise this and no one telling you will make you learn. So if you dont take him back you will be stronger for resisting, take him back and you will learn something else in the future if it works or not. Its not about him, its about you and your son.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, did I read this wrong?

The guy was shouting, screaming calling you names and broke your sunglasses. Hardly constitutes some calling him a violent knuckledragging thug, especially as we don't know what set him off.

On the other hand Monkeypie, your family are usualy right when it comes to these things Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 05:02 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walk away, don't even look back. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 05:53 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO they never change. Ignore the tears & all the sorry's.
I was with a fella for over 4 years, he hit me (nose broken), threatened to rape me, police were called. He eventually ended up in Preston nick for assault. He got clean & sober in there, but that was my break, I finally escaped him & got my life back.
I still see him occasionally unfortunately, I have moved on, he has given me all the apologies under the sun, I have had the tears, the promises etc, but I am not the person he knew back then. he followed me into my house the other day as I was bringing the bike in, he stunk of drink, he cried when I told him what he had done to me, but they were crocodile tears. His family were lovely, but he was the rotten egg in it.

My advice would be to run and live your own life without him in it.
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PostPosted: 05:55 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dragonfly Smile

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PostPosted: 09:57 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypie wrote:

Violent? I dunno... he said some very nasty things, tried to weaken me, he didn't because the things he said aren't true, I'm not cheap, I'm not a slag, Im not a terrible mother, my son isn't a bratt etc. He shoved my car out of gear, grabbed my sunglasses and broke them, then shoved me two or three times while I was driving.

My head says walk away. It's just hard when I've got him giving me the emotional blackmail every day. Swearing he has never done that before, hates himself and promise he will never do it again. Im sure its genuine, but can he do it?



Violent, yes, that is just the start of it, he is showing you what he will be like if you stay with him. Shoving you whilst you were driving could have caused a serious incident resulting in others getting hurt as well as yourself. Walk away now while you are still able to, while you have no physical injuries caused by him.
You will end up emotionally scarred by him if you stay and to me the emotional abuse was far worse than the physical. Cuts & broken bones heal pretty quickly, but believe me the emotional stuff takes a long long time to heal (if it ever does).
Two years on and I still lack a lot of self confidence after my relationship, I might give the impression that I am a confident person, but a lot of the time that is an act. Luckily I have good friends who are always there with a shoulder if I need it.

Escape now while you can, I know it is hard, but for your own sanity you have to make the break now.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank KittyKat

Your all right, everyone says the same, regardless of who you are, where your from and if or not you know me.

I spoke to the Daddy (figure) at work today. He was lovely. . . 'You have no choice Jo. He messed up. I've told him not to grovel and get desperate but he has ignored me. It's hard for both of you, but trust me, it will take him years to learn how to deal with that behavior, maybe then he will be reasonable, but takng him back will only show him his behaviour wasn't as bad as in fact it was'

So, thats it. I think I feel more sorry for him than me, just wish I had not let it become something more serious than it ever should have been. It was only supposed ot be fun back at Christmas.

Your all cool. I'm strong, no bloke will give me any mental abuse, I've had my fair share in the past!!! Sometimes, just need a hand to hold Smile
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypie wrote:

It was only supposed ot be fun back at Christmas.




Fun? , come sky diving and or touring with me instead.

And don't be giving out any mercy shags either, that encourages it even more.
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Monkeypie wrote:

It was only supposed ot be fun back at Christmas.

Fun? , come sky diving and or touring with me instead.

And don't be giving out any mercy shags either, that encourages it even more.


Haha . . . okay Very Happy.

Sold all my skydive gear when I bought my bike 18 months ago!!!! Not jumped for 4-5 years now. Touring yer, I wanna do that! I need to get out and with new/old mates.

As for the mercy shags . . . . . nah, I don't 'need' to do that.

Im really feeling quite happy now ! Lots of rational understanding people.


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PostPosted: 12:19 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypie has pulled! nice solution to this problem Laughing case closed. Razz
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
Monkeypie has pulled! nice solution to this problem Laughing case closed. Razz



Yipeeee Dance!


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PostPosted: 17:27 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sure our Itchy could call around for a quiet drink one night and discuss sky diving with you, *nudge nudge* Wink

Edit: I didnt mean that in a smutty way I meant Itchy get your finger out Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have fun talking figures and inflation with Itchy.

To be honest, I'd rather take a "strawberry cheesecake-esque" beating.
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:

To be honest, I'd rather take a "strawberry cheesecake-esque" beating.


I dont know what that is but it sounds tasty Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
I am sure our Itchy could call around for a quiet drink one night and discuss sky diving with you, *nudge nudge* Wink

Edit: I didnt mean that in a smutty way I meant Itchy get your finger out Laughing


That sounds so wrong Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the way threads change so with the mood.

Haha, I'm celebrating a new start tommorow night with a bottle of champagne and a mate - Very Happy

Strawberry cheescake welcome too.
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