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PostPosted: 22:08 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: I've had some confusing questions on my mock... Reply with quote

Such as "What is the top speed of a wheelchair?"
WTF Shocked Why do I need to know how fast a wheel chair goes?

and can someone explain this too me? I forgot to press the explain answer button because it's gone 12 and I'm getting sleepy :p
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason for that is that an invalid carriage which can go 6mph is allowed to use the public roads. Correct me if i'm wrong but I think thats what the highway code says.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 07 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an unmarked junction so you would need to:
Slow down; and
Sound your horn to alert other drivers of your presence.

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PostPosted: 08:28 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, if you get anything like that on your real theory test firstly look to see how many answers they want, in this case two, then look at the two answers that would be the least dangerous, in this case 'prepare to slow down' is always a winner, how can it be dangerous to prepare to slow down? It can't, so that's one of them.

Of the other 4 'speed up to clear junction' is an obvious no.

'Keep left' why? What possible purpose would that serve? Non, so it's a no for that too.

'Stop as the car has the right of way' a little more tricky but obviously wrong as there are no junction markings so no one has right of way, so how can the car have it, right?

That only leaves 'sound your horn' and as the purpose of the horn is to 'make other road users aware of your presence' it can only serve to alert others on the junction that you're there too, how can that be a bad thing? It can't, so that's your second answer as it is the least likely to get you killed and the most likely to get you noticed.

You have absolutely buckets of time to do the highway code section of the theory test so take your time and work through any possible answers you're unsure of using common sense. I completed it in 10 minutes and that included checking them all again, like I said, buckets of time, use it, no worries Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy1e1 wrote:
The reason for that is that an invalid carriage which can go 6mph is allowed to use the public roads. Correct me if i'm wrong but I think thats what the highway code says.


Think that's true, but it's the most stupid, idiotic, dangerous rule in the whole damn code. I've been driving along a main road before, everyone doing 30mph, and then suddenly cars start swerving ahead. You get closer, can't see anything and then have to swerve yourself because some decrepit old git is driving their electric mobility scooter thing two feet out from the pavement and every car that comes up to them is unsighted by the previous car.

It's dangerous enough mopeds being limited to 30mph so whoever lets these mobility scooters on the road can't have seen a road in their lives.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

8 mph, doesn't everyone know that? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gumby wrote:
It's an unmarked junction so you would need to:
Slow down; and
Sound your horn to alert other drivers of your presence.

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LOL Razz
So who here actually does this?

And with the electric scooter question, I just didn't understand why I need to know how fast they can go, I've just always counted them as slow moving veichals(sp?) even when I just used my mountain bike
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah you don't in theory 'give way' as it's unmarked so no one has the right of way
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Employing a defensive driving attitude you are always prepared to stop, and in 50 50 situations if the other car doesnt give way, then you do. So at an unmarked cross roads, ultimately, you do give way in that situation

It is the sort of junction that they will incorporate onto the test if there is one available, just to see how you deal with it.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puggy Tree wrote:
Gumby wrote:
It's an unmarked junction so you would need to:
Slow down; and
Sound your horn to alert other drivers of your presence.

Smile


LOL Razz
So who here actually does this?

And with the electric scooter question, I just didn't understand why I need to know how fast they can go, I've just always counted them as slow moving veichals(sp?) even when I just used my mountain bike


Listen, it's of fuck all importance what you think you "need to know".

The test isn't for you to choose your favourite questions.

Mobility scooters have a TOP speed of 8mph and have to display AMBER flashing lights by law on carriageways.

You hoot your horn becuase it's an unmarked crossroads, with no priority given. You should ("in theory") also consider hooting your horn when unsure about the presence of traffic on the other side of a narrow bridge.

As was pointed out above, even if you don't know an answer for the theory test you can work it out given that safety is the premium. You don't win points on the thoery test for dangerous riding,.

Also - get the bleeding dvd, and stop wasting time on that website.


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I think some of you are being unfair. Do you think vlunerable elders particularly like being stuck in traffic with all the cocksucking cagers?

Keep your fingers crossed folks that you don't end up too weak to walk, ey? Heaven forfend you might want to get from A-B.

These elderly folks ain't going hooning to the fucking coast, or touring the uk for the kicks, they are mostly trying to continue living a semblence of an active life, during their last wretched days, and if it bothers you that their obstruction adds a minute or two to your journey time, well piss off, and be thankful you ain't disabled enough you need one of these shitty stinky scooters.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

steppen22 wrote:
These elderly folks ain't going hooning to the fucking coast, or touring the uk for the kicks, they are mostly trying to continue living a semblence of an active life, during their last wretched days, and if it bothers you that their obstruction adds a minute or two to your journey time, well piss off, and be thankful you ain't disabled enough you need one of these shitty stinky scooters.


Seeing as I'm the only one in this thread who's made a strongly opinionated comment on the subject, I'm going to assume that your rant was prompted because of me.

Did I even mention in the slightest that they should be denied their mobility? Did I say I cared that it adds to my journey time? Did I even say it adds to my journey time? No, to all three. Rolling Eyes

My point was that it's downright dangerous them being allowed to use the roads to travel on. And I'm thinking in their interests rather than mine. Bicycles aren't quick, but they're taller than most traffic. Scooters aren't quick, but again they're more visible and also noisy. Mobility scooters are smaller than all cars, so if you're unsighted by the car in front you have much less time to avoid them yourself.

They don't add anything to anyone's journey time, but I expect their "last wretched days" as you put it, will be cut even shorter if they use the road network. It's a dangerous law that they're allowed to and the only risk is to them, not motorists.

Get off your high horse and chill out. Your whole post was condescending and ignorant.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 08 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

AJI wrote:


They don't add anything to anyone's journey time, but I expect their "last wretched days" as you put it, will be cut even shorter if they use the road network. It's a dangerous law that they're allowed to and the only risk is to them, not motorists.

Get off your high horse and chill out. Your whole post was condescending and ignorant.


You made me feel better Razz
Even though I was commenting on why I should know about the top speed of one of these scooters I felt bad rising the issue cause I do think everyone has a right for transport, but I've never seen why they should be allowed on the road, I mean I over take them on a push bike and there's few roads these days where people can't step safely to the side to dodge them
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

they should be allowed to use the road when a pavement isn't present. otherwise they should use pedestrianised routes.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rufus wrote:
they should be allowed to use the road when a pavement isn't present. otherwise they should use pedestrianised routes.


Agree completely. I won't deny them their access from place to place if there's no other means other than the road, but every time I've come across one there's been a wide pavement with nobody on it. And let's be honest it's easier for a pedestrian to step aside than it is for a line of traffic to dodge around them at the last minute.
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