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 igiyf World Chat Champion
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 Posted: 00:04 - 17 Aug 2008 Post subject: no conspiracy..what do you think of this? net tax |
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British legislators are floating a package of proposals to deal with the problem of illegal downloads, including one that would levy an annual charge of up to £30 ($59) for Internet users to cover illegal downloading, according to The Independent. The recording industry estimates a loss of £1 billion over the next five years in the UK because of illegal downloads. In the U.S., similar ideas have been proposed as well.
the annual charge proposal would cover any illegal downloads, but the music industry would have to seriously underestimate what consumers spend on downloads to justify the annual fee. Why would those who regularly pay for music downloads continue to pay if they were going to be taxed whether they have illegal downloads or not
https://www.thestandard.com/news/2008/07/24/uk-proposing-music-tax-cover-illegal-downloads-or-worse
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If the greedy scum charged a fair price it wouldn't be nearly as much of problem. I pay for my MP3 downloads, 9p a shot from some russian site. 79p from i-Tunes? Kiss my fvcking arse.  ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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It'll never happen, completely unjustifiable, we won't stand for it.
The filthy rich trying to fuck over the common man? Unheard of! Put your tinfoil hats back on and piss off.
Just getting the ball rolling.... If anyone wants to firebomb lots of major media stores I wouldn't mind, might cost them some real money.  ____________________ Go back to bed - You have no rights - "Streetfighters ~ Mainstream motorcycling's crackwhore sister." |
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| Nufkamp |
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This will never happen. If you are being charged a levy to cover illegal downloads then what the hell incentive have you got to keep legal? All that will happen is people will see it as a licence to download via P2P or whatever and every bugger will end up 'stealing music'.
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To start charging for illegal downloads would simply legalise it.
Never gonna happen ____________________ Fallen Angel "Nae sniffing my seat now!!!!! "
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No no no , you are thinking of the wrong thing , Ivan Lewis local low life MP has suggested we bring back super tax that is the 98% tax people used to pay on income...
What he really means is that we want to increase income tax , therefore the tax limit proposed is 250K , but it'll get lowered to about 50K (55%) you can bet on that (taxes go up 11% next year btw its very hard to spot). As a 98% tax on wealthy means they would leave or avoid it... ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Those really cheap russian download sites are no more legal than just downloading for free from torrents or where ever else.
I'd have no problem with paying a reasonable amount like £30 each year to make illegal downloading no longer be illegal. 10,000+ MP3's here, I think I'd get value for money if it all became legal for £30 per year.  |
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Well done, have some karma. ____________________ Go back to bed - You have no rights - "Streetfighters ~ Mainstream motorcycling's crackwhore sister." |
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| aaronb74 wrote: | | powelly wrote: | There was some research done in Canada, and they worked out that if every adult paid $2 a week extra in tax that was distributed to the record and movie companies that all online media could be free. |
How would they calculate how to distribute the tax though? Surely the makers of some major blockbuster would expect more than those making some low budget film. The main incentive for these companies is to make money through sales, so it would be a bit difficult if everything was free and they just got a share of some government tax pot.
Also, the internet is international, so I'd have to wonder why Canadians would be taxed to cover things which could be downloaded by people all over the world. |
I know where your coming from, and I'd love to be able to find the story, but the basis of it was that if you take what the RIAA/MPAA claimed that the artists/studio's lost in a country and divided it by the population of that country you were left with about $2 per head.
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Finally, I certainly wouldn't want to pay an extra $100/£100 a year as I don't particularly watch many films and tend to listen to the radio more than buying/downloading music anyway.
(sorry I'm just in a really ranty mood today) |
The point is if we moved away from a model where we buy the right to watch of listen to something and instead contribute to the global right for all to watch of listen to whatever they want whenever they want it massively change the way we use entertainment media.
I love Virgin on demand, I dont think since I got it ive watched a scheduled program, i spend more time time shifting and dipping in to the archives of old programs, now imagine if for the equivalent of a pound a week you could have the same service, but with every song and every tv program ever made!
Seems like a bargain to me
| aaronb74 wrote: | IMO it would be the same as shops putting their prices up a bit to compensate for shoplifting. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 225 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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