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Move out. I persuaded my dad to let me keep the bike in "his" garage, but he was always funny about it. Even though it was a Honda City Express, so didn't take up much room. I suppose he did pay for it though... all £50
Besides, living with your parents when you're old enough to get a room in a bedsit or something is lame.
Unless they do your washing and cooking, and you don't pay rent. In which case, stay there as long as possible  ____________________ '07 Triumph Speed Four
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Hmm, my parents wouldn't let me have a bike either, or at least they weren't keen. I went to uni and accidentally bought one then, came back for Easter and told my parents I was going to do a CBT so I could ride a friend's bike... Couple of months later told them I'd bought my own bike.
Did my full test this summer without telling them, they noticed the lack of L plates "yeah, decided to do my test before they brought the new one in, means I can use motorways".
Went to visit a friend for the weekend, went up on the train, came back on the 550
Mother dearest wasn't amused, but as I'd already got it- nowt she could do. Calmed down after a day or so anyway, so that's the way to do it... ____________________ A2 passed 22/07/08; restriction up 22/07/10 (just so I don't forget)
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 neil. World Chat Champion

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Demonstrate to them that you take it seriously, so get all the proper gear, high-vis top, white helmet and riding books like the DSA stuff to show you want to take a responsible and safe attitude towards it.  ____________________ CBT February 2008 | A2 June 2008 | Yamaha YBR125 (written off) | Honda CBF125 (current) |
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| Wil wrote: | | neil.martin wrote: | Demonstrate to them that you take it seriously, so get all the proper gear, high-vis top, white helmet and riding books like the DSA stuff to show you want to take a responsible and safe attitude towards it.  |
Yep, that will help.
Definately don't do what I did and rag it around the streets with no helmet or gear on. Not to mention no licence, tax, MOT or insurance. Dad was not amused... |
Some good tips.
However, another approach is the pros and cons list. Just make sure they're reasonable and not too made-up.
For instance, why do you want a bike?
Is it for economic transport for college/university/work?
...or just to impress the girls?
Will the bike give you an amount of independence?
Will it stop your parents running you around?
Isn't a bike cheaper to insure and run (and repair!) than a car?
Will a bike allow you to learn road sense better than a car?
Are you prepared not just to be a fair weather biker?
Have you arranged some advanced training with the local IAM group or BikeSafe? (shows you're responsible plus may get cheaper insurance)
...you get the idea I hope.
Also show you can you afford it?
- purchase price
- tax
- MOT if required
- insurance
- pre-ride costs - CBT and lessons/test
- Bike gear - boots, textile trousers, jacket, gloves and helmet
- Bike security - chain, locks, ground anchor
- running costs immediate - petrol, oil
- running costs ongoing - service (teach yourself oil/filter/brakes), consumables like chain, tyres, etc.
Hope this helps  ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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Jeeesus don't you lot communicate with you parents at all?
I'd be devastated if any of our lads felt they couldn't talk to me beforehand about something as important in their lives as this. OK, having a bike wouldn't be a problem in our household but he principle remains.
Just sit down and talk to them ffs, they are your parents and they (hopefully) love you, so find out what their fears are about you having a bike and try to show them that you are mature enough to have thought things through and whatever it is that they are dreading you do not intend to become a statistic.
Listen to Map, he talks good sense here. ____________________ Sod falling in love, I wanna fall in chocolate.  |
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Why not tell them you are going to get a bike and ask if they could put money towards some training for you? If they care so much they will help pay for your training rather than let you struggle just doing the minimum to get on the road. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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I would say on top of whats already been mentioned, as long as you don't get complacent with it, its no more or less dangerous than driving a car.
Sure, you read in the papers about yet another person dying horribly on a bike. But think of the countless thousands of miles travelled with out mishap...
Even reading on here could put a person off, but it would be a dull forum if everyone posted along the lines of; 'commuted to work, it was fine.'
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What about passing your test first then coming to them with a "complete package"?
What did it for me was being 16 and getting a holiday job on a dairy farm that started at 4.30 in the morning. Moped came really quickly after that.
If you present them with something totally non-threatning looking as a request, this can help. Parents don't like them to look like motorbikes. If you went for something like a Honda Innova initially, you'd probably get further. Steer clear of fat tyres, loud exhausts and "all plastic bits on the front." until they are used to the concept of a powered two wheeler. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Can you not also introduce your parents to a few non chavvy bike mates?
Let your parents ask them questions about biking in general?
They might feel better with information coming from another source because then it's not just you telling them things because you want a bike
Apart from that I can't help....My Dad bought my first bike for me as a surprise  |
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I commuted to work today. It was fine.
(apart from all the crashes) ____________________ A Guide To Powerbands |
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I agree with the majority of the suggestions here.
I definitely support the idea of showing them how mature you can be about it. And showing them that you are old enough to make your own choices and take responsibility.
When it comes to getting a bigger bike, the "well accelerating out of a problem is just as important as being able to brake out of a problem" reason always works  ____________________ Bandit 600 |
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Say:
"Do you want a nice home when you are older?
Yes?
Then let me have a nice bike!"
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 288 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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