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| mad_man wrote: | hitler had to start somewhere like every other scum fuck we have had the pleasure of dealing with throughout history,but hitler was different..he started off by increasing home land security against terroism and going to war in the name of protecting the nation..yes hitler was indeed very different |
Do not insult me. You obviously have no fucking idea of what Hitler was about.
Going to war in the name of protecting HIS nation?! Purlease. He went to war because he was about to create the Third Reich.
So, sticking Jews in concentration camps was to protect home land security in the name of terrorism. Thank god, I know more than you do.
Listen mate, you appear to know fuck all about current affairs and believe me, you have no fucking idea what happened in the past either. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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| Quote: | Do not insult me. You obviously have no fucking idea of what Hitler was about.
Going to war in the name of protecting HIS nation?! Purlease. He went to war because he was about to create the Third Reich.
So, sticking Jews in concentration camps was to protect home land security in the name of terrorism. Thank god, I know more than you do.
Listen mate, you appear to know fuck all about current affairs and believe me, you have no fucking idea what happened in the past either. |
another great start to the day aided by a mouth throathing clueless ego driven lunatic..keep it coming boss..its great !!
adolf Hitler came to power in Germany in 1933 as a result of a democratic election process marked by backroom deals and political intrigues. At the time, Germany was facing a climate of extreme financial inflation and depression as a lingering result of the draconian sanctions imposed by the western allies at Versailles subsequent to the first world war. In order to solidify and consolidate overwhelming public support for Hitler's assumption of power, the Reichstag was burned to the ground and the Communists were blamed, leading the Nazis to declare a state of national emergency and institute an entire slate of draconian laws severely limiting the civil rights of all German citizens and institutions alike under the pretext of protecting national security.
history of Poland from 1939 to 1945 encompasses the German invasion of Poland through to the end of World War II. On September 1, 1939, without a formal declaration of war, Germany invaded Poland. Germany's pretext was that Polish troops had allegedly committed "provocations" along the German-Polish border, which was actually a staged attack by the Germans. Germany also used issues like the dispute between Germany and Poland over German rights to the Free City of Danzig and the freeing of a passage between East Prussia and the rest of Germany through the Polish Corridor as excuses for the invasion. Pursuant to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, Poland was divided between Germany and the Soviet Union, which invaded eastern Poland on September 17, 1939.
you seriously think the people knew what Hitlers goals were?thank god you know more than i do you dont even know basic history and how hitler manipulated people to carry out his desires..then again you think right now the usa and uk is in iraq fighting terrorists to protect us.. class a fool i love it!
as said hitler had to start somewhere,and he did so using similar techniques as we are seeing in this day..
and if you cant see the sarcasm in my post theres something wrong with your brain..the techniques hitler used are near identical to the techniques used by america today.. because hitler was very different to every other regime of scum in history  |
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Where do you get your historical facts from? Encarta?
There are loads of reasons why Germany invaded Poland. To deny that it was a fabrication in part of an extended German Reich is ludicrous. To say it was fabricated in a way to evade terrorism is down right ridiculous.
Lets take a look at the timeline shall we? Firstly we have the Anschluss between Austria and Germany which was supported by 99.6% of the German nation, although forcibly with SS encouragement. Then we have the envelopement of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia that Hitler claimed were as German as anyone else in Germany. Obviously this then led to the capture of Prague and the rest of Czechoslovakia. Nothing to do with "Terrorism". Through appeasement Britain did sweet FA and so Hitler assumed he could get away with taking the Polish corridor back as it was a state created on the back of Versailles, separating mainland Germany and the former powerhouse of Prussia. Yet again, terrorism was not used as a motive, I have no idea where you get your facts from, but they are not evident in any of the books I have been reading for the past three years.
Yes, yes you are correct that the Reichstag was burned down in 1933, with blame put upon the communists the very next day and a emergency decree passed by Hindenburg, who remember was still president at the time. The coming of Hitler was arguably not down to his pure skill and use of propaganda. Hindenburg and Papen had both believed they had only "hired" Hitler as a chancellor. He had already built his success throughout Germany as the polls had suggested.
IT WAS ALSO a foregone conclusion that it was common knowledge that Hitler wanted a one party state. The German people had agreed to this. He told Papen in a meeting in Cologne late in 1932 that he wanted to abolish the democratic system in place in Germany at the time. The political atmosphere in Germany was completely different to that in Britain and America today. Germany as a nation was only 60 years old and had been under autocratic rule up until 1920. German people naturally understood one party leadership and so were willing to let Hitler guide them towards a third reich. Democracy as a whole had been a failure under the Weimar Republic.
80% of German's knew exactly what Hitlers goals were, it was the rest of the world that was oblivious. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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| Quote: | Former counter-terrorism czar Richard Clarke told CNN yesterday that Osama Bin Laden would attempt to influence the 2008 U.S. election with a terrorist attack or the release of a video tape, an October surprise to replicate that of 2004 when Bin Laden swung the election for Bush.
“At the moment, as far as I can tell, the FBI, other intelligence agencies, do not have any credible information that would lead them to believe an attack might take place. Why are we asking this, though?” said Clarke.
“Because in 2004, bin Laden did try to influence the US election. Whether or not he succeeded, who knows? But he issued a video tape on Halloween, a few days before the election, that implied that he supported Senator Kerry.”
“He knew, that if he seemed to be supporting Senator Kerry, that would help President Bush. And it did.”
“So, we know he likes to try to influence elections,” said Clarke. “So, we can look forward to perhaps another video tape like that, or an attack. |
| Quote: | replicate that of 2004 when Bin Laden swung the election for Bush. | bin laden helped bush win?>
| Quote: | He knew, that if he seemed to be supporting Senator Kerry, that would help President Bush. And it did |
he likes to influence elections and he supports bush? |
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| mad_man wrote: | ..he was no different to the shit the usa are pulling off today..and where did i get my information?standard history..may want to look into it some time. |
yes exactly
the americans have caused many more million deaths by causing mass murder in other nations,
they do it to increase their power and decrease the power of their rivals
"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
- Hermann Goering at his Nuremburg trial.
to be fair hitler was only about for a few years, so if he had been about a bit longer, he could well have outdone stalin, chinese dictators and american presidents
Hitler was a man with a vision and was willing to do whatever was necessary no matter how many lives it cost, a bit like Nixon. ____________________ colin1 is officially faster than god |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 319 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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