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| Credit crunch - are you feeling it? |
| What are you talking about - times have never been so good |
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| Things are no different for me |
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| I'm feeling a bit of a squeeze |
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| I'm thinking about selling the bike |
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| The baliffs are on their way round tomorrow |
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| I'm bankrupt |
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 Posted: 20:59 - 20 Sep 2008 Post subject: Credit crunch and financial troubles |
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Are you feeling it? I know I am despite earning a good wage.
My house sale has fallen through (again), this time after we had exchanged contracts! I'm left paying for two houses and probably an uphill struggle with a large legal bill to recover my losses. ____________________ Current bike: Kawasaki Z750S |
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Good for me at the moment, loads of overtime, not many outgoings, happy days. ____________________ Current Toys: 06 Yamaha WR250F | Nissan 350Z GT | Tech 4 Homes |
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Just had 2 weeks in Egypt and brought 2 new cars, looking for another bike. Ignorance is bliss.
Probably naive but I see it as artificial, just a way for the rich to make a bit more money by affecting share prices with the hype from the media boosting the general depression. ____________________ https://www.metacafe.com/watch/1972097/how_to_behave_on_a_forum/ |
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I can't say we are really feeling it or are particularly worried about it.
Yes we've noticed the rise in fuel and food, but as long as you can budget around it and work out the must haves and the wants then there is no problem.
Or maybe we are just oblivious to what's happening around us? ____________________ Mutley - 1988 Austin Mini City - Blog
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| Icey wrote: | I can't say we are really feeling it or are particularly worried about it.
Yes we've noticed the rise in fuel and food, but as long as you can budget around it and work out the must haves and the wants then there is no problem.
Or maybe we are just oblivious to what's happening around us? |
How long have you got? , I keep typing up whats happening but keep going into tomes bigger than war and peace..
Here is my absolute precis:
| Quote: | but as long as you can budget around it and work out the must haves and the wants then there is no problem. |
Problem is ALOT of people can't due to over stretching themselves on loans (lies on self certs) or not being able to get new cheap deals, people go bankrupt , *banks balance sheets look bad, share holders get spooked by this they sell bank balance sheets look worse..
Government bails them out = printing money
Printing money = higher inflation
higher inflation = food+petrol+mortgages go up
This makes people who are barely making ends meet go bankrupt go back to*
This is linked to:
Government bails out banks = higher taxes
Higher taxes = people have less money and two things happen:
they are overstretched and some snap and go bankrupt (go to point * again).
森 They spend less, spending less means companies who loaned money to banks go to the wall, go to point * again
Companies going bust = less jobs and less corp + income tax.
This means government has less cash, which means tax hikes , which means people go bankrupt go to point 森
etc etc...
The utter horror is that once the banks have been bailed they will start yet again to loan out toxic debt, as there is no moral hazard. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
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I am not feeling it financially but I work for RBS so don't have great job security at present.
No option for that on the poll.
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Bit shit for me for the last few months all overtime got cut and pay reduced by £300 per month so taking home half of what l was last year plus rent and bills gone up. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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Things have never been better for me financially...was in hospital for 13 weeks getting full pay so managed to save a bit short of 4k.
However the result of that was i wouldn't be able to ride a normal bike again (won't be able to change gears) and now have to learn in a 1 legged car (auto) even thoughi had over 15 lessons in a manual car before my accident  ____________________ It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt, then it's bloody hilarious!!! |
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My main concern is boiled frog syndrome. Ever so slowly my income is being eaten more by basics - food, fuel, utilities, insurance etc., whilst my pleasures and savings spend is going down. At some point, all my income will be going on just living expenses, which is only a step away from not having enough for basics. Now if we were suddenly plunged into that state, (instead of the temperature slowly being raised) we'd be up in arms. If we were allowed arms, that is - we'd just have to make do with pitchforks and flaming torches now.
At what point will the average Joe notice, and do something about it?
Reading recently about the Great Depression, I came across the symptoms of an economic crash:-
| Quote: | 1. Credit mentality instead of paying cash. “Don’t spend money you don’t already have in your pocket.”
2. Rich grew richer at the expense of others. “Don’t pay someone else to provide something that you can learn to do or to make yourself.”
3. Abandonment of traditional values and frugality. “Never buy anything you can use – only what you can’t live without.”
4. Self-Indulgence and self-gratification by immediate acquisition of possessions. “Don’t buy anything until you have twice the purchase amount.”
5. High Expectations by gambling in the stock market. “It’s doesn’t matter how much money you can make, but how much money you can save!” |
Admittedly it was on a God bothering site, so it's got a preachy twang to it, but the underlying message still holds. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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Not bad for me, started a new job earning 50% more than I did last year. Work away 6 months a year so have no living expenses during that time.
Only annoying thing is cigarettes are £2.80 a packet here and were only £2.30 on my last rig
Do have to buy a bigger house due to the arrival of twins, but I think I'll change my current one to a buy to let mortgage until the climate improves to sell it.  ____________________ Fallen Angel "Nae sniffing my seat now!!!!! "
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Its not had a massive effect on me personally.
My old landlord did put the rent up but we were moving anyway, so didn't feel the effect of that.
My only real worry is losing my job, at the moment we're busier then ever and already booked up for the first couple of month of next year.
A couple of biggish local companies have already gone bust or cut right back, which in a way has sent some work in our direction.
I'm only really worried as it's a small company and I'm only an apprentice so if the work did dry up it would be a case of last in first out for me.
I'm a low earner but I seem to manage to control my money fairly well, I don't own anything that great or expensive but I still have enough money to do most things that I want, things would have to get a lot worse to cause me any real problems, for me its worth not having a flash car or bike and the latest must have items, just to have that financial safety
So many things are classed as essentials these days which is why a lot of people have got themselves in so much debt. ____________________ Yamaha FZR400RR 3tj
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| Al wrote: | So many things are classed as essentials these days which is why a lot of people have got themselves in so much debt. |
So, so true. When I was younger I ran up a bit of debt getting new bikes, car, off road bikes etc. All stuff you don't need but really want.
Well I'm no different now, only I've worked like fuck this year and cleared all my debt and saved a considerable amount of money as well as getting 3 new bikes and a car as well as gadgets and shit most people these days aren't willing to work for things.
I've been working 7 days a week , 70+ hours most weeks non stop all summer, I don't want a medal but I get so fucked off when people assume my dads bought all my stuff!! MY dad hasn't bought me a single thing and thats the way I like it.
All things aside though, the above isn't really on topic as such. It's probably a hell of a lot harder for families trying to afford their mortgage, bills and feed the kids etc. They say food and petrol etc is starting to come down again, and Tescos etc are all fighting each other to get the cheapest prices, so hopefully things are on the up in that front  ____________________ Current Toys: 06 Yamaha WR250F | Nissan 350Z GT | Tech 4 Homes |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 15 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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