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 SCBC L Plate Warrior
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 Posted: 21:55 - 19 Nov 2008 Post subject: Petition about crappy Gravel Roads |
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Hi everyone
im not one to pester people with things like this but im getting fed up now of going out for a nice ride in the country to go around a corner and find the have resurfaced the road with lose gravel. I have noticed over the last few months that these poor road surfaces are popping up every where. I have even had my bloody road done with it. over the last month i have nearly come of my bike 3 times due to these poorly laid roads and to be honest iv had enough. We all pay road tax to ride/Drive on quality roads not on poor quality fast fix's that is a hazard to ride one causes paint chips on your paint work and breaks your radiator. So please if you would like to see the back of these roads please take a second to sign the petition and lets get ride of these roads before we lose yet more bikers.
https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/resurfaceroadsproperly/?e
Thanks for taking the time to read this
Andy
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Errrr
That's how they surface roads, what do you actually want done?  |
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Oh come on now does anybody still believe these things will make any difference at all?....
what was it 1 or was it 2 million people signed the no to road pricing petition , Gordon Brown read this as yes we want road pricing.....
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 stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist

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They have been making roads like that for as long as I can remember. Ride accordingly.
If they have failed to errect adequate signage warning of loose chippings ahead, that is a different matter and you should bring it up with either the council roads department or the trunk road maintainance contractor as appropriate.
If you want to complain about a road surface, please go for bitumen mastic. At least you can see loose chippings, bitumen mastic can have all the grip properties of a sheet of glass yet still look pristine. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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 stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist

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| greengreen grass wrote: | Well must be suffering memory loss? Ride accordingly lol i'll fork out for a KTM or come and move near you guys as it seems that your road tax money is been well spent on the perfectly formed roads. Oh come o guys give they Guy/Girl a break he is trying to improve roads. lol gravel or Tarmac the roads are crap full of pot holes and uneven and if you can truthfully say your happy with the uk roads then you need to get out and ride your bikes rather than have them sat in your garages looking at them and boasting how low there mileage is?
Im like in this topic
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I'm not saying the roads aren't in a shit state, I'm saying that it is perfectly normal practice to repair a road which isn't worn past the top layer by using tar and chippings then rely on the passage of cars to pack the chippings down.
It would probably be an idea if they took a sweeper over it after a few days to remove any excess chippings.
Yes they are unpleasant to ride on when they've just put the chippings down but I've never fallen off on them, it's a hazard you can see. They aren't loose forever and a road surface that has been dressed in that way offers loads of grip in the wet and during snowy/icy conditions.
As this fellow says:
| Quote: | In simplified terminology for the general public, and the "suits" now largely in charge of our industry, as long as the "pointy-bits", a technical term you understand, of the highly textured surface protrude above the frost, ice, or snow covering, the rubber of the tyre will find grip on them, and providing you drive carefully you will be able to negotiate the road safely.
In the summer, on an established surface dressing, you will just be able to stop quicker, when the sheep, cow or tractor appears around the bend you should be approaching more sensibly. |
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So, chippings, just slow the down for a couple of weeks 'till they are bedded in. They could save your life when it's icy. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Just a quick note, if you're in the UK and you're starting a petition about a UK subject, do so on the no10 website.
If it reaches more than 250 signatures it'll get treated as a real one by the PM's office.
You are unlikely to get a reply from the PM, but if it's a sensible petition about a serious topic that is run for a reasonable length of time (if it's opened for 1 year over a fiercly topical subject, it'll not be much cop) you'll almost certainly get a reply from a minister.
Wether you like the reply or if it's from the *right* minister is an entirely different kettle of fish.
I say this having worked in the department that handled the correspondence, albeit not the epetitions, so I wouldn't take it as entirely gospel, but whilst I was there it was being taken with increasing seriousness as a) it's a good system and b) it's easier to process and respond to a million email addresses than it is to respond to a million signatures!
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Number 10 website or some American website, it doesn't matter.
Online petitions are a complete waste of time, so it makes no difference what website is used.  |
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| multijoy wrote: | Just a quick note, if you're in the UK and you're starting a petition about a UK subject, do so on the no10 website.
If it reaches more than 250 signatures it'll get treated as a real one by the PM's office.
You are unlikely to get a reply from the PM, but if it's a sensible petition about a serious topic that is run for a reasonable length of time (if it's opened for 1 year over a fiercly topical subject, it'll not be much cop) you'll almost certainly get a reply from a minister.
Wether you like the reply or if it's from the *right* minister is an entirely different kettle of fish.
I say this having worked in the department that handled the correspondence, albeit not the epetitions, so I wouldn't take it as entirely gospel, but whilst I was there it was being taken with increasing seriousness as a) it's a good system and b) it's easier to process and respond to a million email addresses than it is to respond to a million signatures!
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| SCBC wrote: | these gravel roads are not what i would say fixing our roads. there are several roads i ride on in and around Hampshire that have had this new surface put on it and there are shocking with bumps and ridges all over it holes not filled in correctly with just gravel that is constantly been flicked up by car's creating an even bigger hole
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Thanks to the guys that have signed already and as i said not here to start and Jerry Springer Debates.
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Fair dos, but that's nothing to do with the gravel top dressing which, as I'll re-iterate, is a perfectly normal way of building a road. If the road surface has broken down past the upper layer, it needs repairing, not top-dressing which is what appears to be your issue.
Oh, and it's a discussion forum, not an announcement forum. The stated purpose of this particular section is to "Discuss the latest news and issues affecting biking today.". Discussions where everyone agrees tend to be very short indeed.
Were it not for discussion, a) Nobody would have actually thought about what their position is on the subject.
b) This post would now be on page 6 where nobody reads it. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 138 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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